Less costs for building maintenance means less salary? Fuck off.
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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I think their true motivation is less available tax write-offs for that commercial real estate expense, which seems to me like piss poor adaptability of a company that a free market should eat alive.
Or…OR!…and hear me out here…we work remotely in jobs where it is sensible to do so, AND keep the pay.
Garbage corpo propaganda piece.
Or...OR!...and here me out here...companies demand workers return to office AND cut their pay.
Garbage corpos. Everything is going to shit because already insanely wealthy shareholders demand number go up at any cost.
When my job went remote from covid it was like getting a double digit raise if I count the commute as overtime and vehicle costs plus on site meals.
That means working from home is comparable to a pay raise. That does not mean that workers need to give anything up to keep it. It means companies need to pay more to people who are required to commute.
yup. I give a rate for 100% wfh and what the bump has to be for each day of the week expected in office. I will work in office but they will have to pay and its not cheap.
No way, they should pay me more since they're saving money on office space. Why do the employees have to take a cut by default?
Because people value working from home a lot, so a company doesn't have to offer as much pay and they're still likely to find interested, qualified candidates.
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Easily $20k for me.
Edit: I probably wasn't clear. I work remote. It would take at a minimum $20k extra to consider a non-remote job.
Don’t set this precedent. You’re paid for the work you do, not where you do it.
The simple fact is that if you were wasting $100 a month on fuel you were working for $100 a month less already.
Just be real, benefits are part of your pay and your commute can either be a good part of your benefits or a negotiation in higher pay.
But also, the company is saving money by not paying for an office, so I can argue that they need to pay me the same salary as rent for my office space.
Like, say I can work from home but I don’t have the space. Now I need a more expensive place with an extra room that I can dedicate for an office.
I don’t have the option of working from home, I’m just saying don’t let those fuckers hoodwink you in to less than you’re worth.
That office will be there in that building whether you are in it or not.
The only thing you're saving is the power your computer would use and the miniscule amount of energy that it took to cool down your body heat and maybe an elevator if you go up at all by yourself
I’d get a job somewhere else that paid less if I could work from home.
Commuting costs time and money. If I can break even on the commute cost, I’m happy.
Commuting cost more than money
Commuting cost time, which is priceless.
My company has a work from home culture desk that allows its employees to work from anywhere on the Greenwich meridian +/- 1 hour
I wouldn’t leave for a WFO job until I’m paid €50000 more
I completely agree, my wife took an office job because the pay was a significant bump.
thats more than I would require but I actually think Im undervaluing it a bit as im basically doin 25%
Not who you responded to but I have a set amount for non WFH. You see I work for who I want not who wants me. The WFH position is different from the non WFH one and requires different compensation.
Ah yeah I hear ya. If you’re switching jobs then go for it. I was thinking more like, your boss comes up to you (zooms you I guess) and says, “we’re gonna cut your pay because you don’t have to drive to work any more”
Yeah that would not cut it. I won't sign a contract with that. We can go on as written or they can drop me. Lowering compensation is never going to fly with me.