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[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Unfortunately not Open Source: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE

I'll keep using NewPipe. Their software seems neat, I'll happly pay for it, but no way I'll do if there is licence like that.

Edit: They say the licence is only temporary. Let's keep an eye which one they'll choose later.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Louis explains the license in the video. You can fork it and modify it, but if you fill it up with ads, spyware, malware etc., they fill fuck you.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's their goal. They have good intentions. But it also means no commercial use.

You can't do "Hey, can you add this feature to this app, I'll pay you" or "Here is much improved version you can buy from me" or "We give you paid support and help for this software for your company". Eventually all improvements bounce back to original creators anyway, see: vital paid Wordpress theme ecosystem, most of them being GPL licenced.

With project getting bigger such restriction can be almost as bad as with propietary app. Like, imagine Linux kernel but only with Linus Torvalds having right to sell computers with it or offer any services making money.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can not modify the source code.

you are not entitled to use or do anything with the code for any commercial or other purpose, other than review, compilation and non-commercial distribution in accordance with the terms of this license.

"review" means to access, analyse, test and otherwise review the code as a reference, for the sole purpose of analysing it for defects.

[–] zolax@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

doesn't it allow compilation and non-commercial distribution? I don't agree with the license (not free or open source), but I'm genuinely curious on what specifically doesn't allow source code modification.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does allow compilation and non-commercial distribution, as per the terms my comment above. If you're curious as to what disallows source code modifications, that is also contained in the terms included in my comment above.

[–] zolax@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

ah, I see. thanks

[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I sympathise with his reasoning for the license but still, that sucks.

I think I'll try it anyway, though. It's trying to solve a real issue.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 2 points 1 year ago

Quite informative. Quite unfortunate.

Is there any way to view live content in New pipe? I love watching the young Turks when it's on, but I have to use the YouTube app because I cannot figure out how to watch a live broadcast in new pipe.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Better revanced = NewPipe

No algorithms, no Google tracking

I personally find LibreTube even better, since it syncs with your Piped account.

[–] signs23@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

But you cant cast videos to SmartTube with it. So i think Revanced has the better versatility.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'd rather not give all my details for multiple sites to one site...regardless of who's doing it.

[–] bbbhltz 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You took the words out of my mouth. I don't even know who this guy is really, I've seen some of his videos, but having access to all of your account stuff is... nah

A 300MB apk file? It is on Google Play. No F(L)OSS license. Other apps by the same developer (futo) seem to contain no trackers. Probably nothing to worry about, but how many video platforms does the average person use? I look at YT and a small handful of peertube instances.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other apps by the same developer (futo) seem to contain no trackers

FUTO is an organisation that wholly sponsors developers to make source-available, privacy respecting apps. They do other stuff too, but mainly this.

Like Shark Tank or Dragons Den, but for developers

[–] bbbhltz 4 points 1 year ago
[–] limerod@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are trying to download the universal app that contains multi archs libraries. Try to download a specific arch for your device like arm v7 or arm v8. That's half the size. The Play Store build is even more optimized at 41mb.

Edit: the version listed on their website has more sources compared to playstore which is bland. I would get the site version if I were you.

[–] potato@lemmy.basedcount.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well actually, your login info never goes to them at all. You log into the sites directly in a webview and it uses the cookie to sync your subs and recommendations locally on your device.

[–] jellyfish 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The app needs two things: YouTube SponsorBlock, and the ability to tag creators and filter by tag/interest. I'm really hopeful they add those two things, and I'd be a convert.

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it ^^

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it

It could hardly get better than SmartTubeNext.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SmartTube is the shizz on TV.

If only it could talk to my Piped server, it'd be perfect.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Brand new alpha video player app already has background play, Floatplane devs in shambles

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will keep a eye on it but till the license changes I will stick with my tried and true Newpipe and Libretube apps. Both of those are "improved revanced" to me already but the idea of multiple sources is a cool one, not new but certainly cool and I haven't seen Nebula in other attempts but I just wish people could agree on a addon standard to implement services for various of those apps and media centers at once!

[–] signs23@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you cast videos to SmartTube/TV?

That's the thing im missing from those apps and it seems its not possible.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's something I am also very much interested in but I haven't looked it up or tried yet so no clue!

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does LibreTube still work for you?

[–] xfc@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine wasn't for a while then I realised the other say the v0.19 was available on the izzydroid repo but not yet on fdroid and that resolved some issues for me

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much!

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It uses Piped servers to proxie the videos which hide your IP address but those servers are run by volunteers and aren't always perfect so it's more of a hit or miss but if one doesn't work I usually switch and doing that between kavin.rocks, libre.kavin.rocks and adminforge.de usually works very well for me, I just wish there was a proper way to store my subscriptions locally beside not using a Piped account at all!

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know those things. But the App crashed constantly, only working for one video or two if I was lucky.

Updating solved the issue.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, it's crashy enough already but one of the last few updates was a fucking mess!

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 7 points 1 year ago
[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Love the aggregation idea! Gonna check back onto it after some months, until then I'm sticking with good ol' Revanced.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use inotia00's version of ReVanced, ReVanced Extended. It adds way more options for fine tuning

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

This idea has definitely been tried before and has consistently failed

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Kind of a moot point compared to the other points raised here, but I won't be using this until there is a light theme. Why did they not launch with a light theme? Idk

Hmm. It works very well on my old Samsung phone but it crashes immediately on my current 1+ phone. It literally opens directly to the crash dump screen. Lmao. That said, using this on my old phone, it's already extremely well done. Having all of my video sources in one app is a great idea. Hope they fix the current issue so I can use it on my current phone.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like Libretube but I'm always willing to try something new.

Edit: Wish TikTok was a source.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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