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I'm not sure where to discuss this so I'm posting here since this is the hub of FOSS advocates.

I had a really interesting conversation with a friend about the Bandcamp situation and as we were discussing it occured to me that something like PeerTube but for music doesn't really exist. Which doesn't make sense in my mind as it's so much less cost to host and so useful. Half of Youtube's audience mainly goes there for music.

So, I don't know, does it make sense for anyone else to work on something Fediverse-based (Activity Pub) that is aimed at music creators?

I would even go as far as allow the creators to host ads on their page so as to attract as many of them as possible. Controversial but we have to take one step at a time to change mindsets. Right now, the situation is that you have to put up with massive advertising or go the FOSS way and depend on donations.

What do you guys think?

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[–] ardent_abysm@lemm.ee 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just signed up at open.audio . This is pretty lackluster for the moment but has tremendous potential. Thank you so much for letting me know of it! :)

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Iapar@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Or maybe lucklobster?

[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this based on Activity Pub?

[–] ardent_abysm@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Actually, this seems like Spotify, I was talking abou something with comments and likes, kinda social. That would be even better imo.

[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awesome, do you have a link to find instances?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 1 year ago

https://fediverse.party/en/funkwhale/

It seems to work like Mastadon in that it's user-follow. Which means you can search for them in Lemmy but can't subscribe to them.

e.g. @guarachas_e_radiolas@sonora.radioaconchego.org

I can resolve the user on that Funkwhare instance, but can't see any posts or follow them.

Unless I'm doing something wrong.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Secure Connection Failed.

[–] fairchild@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago
[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 28 points 1 year ago

@ReverseModule @linux the main feature of Bandcamp is that you can sell music. Selling anything from your own website requires a lot of red tape. That's why these websites exist to get economies of scale on the red tape.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is a great topic. I think it comes down to incentives. Artists going to the trouble of writing music, practicing, recording, editing and publishing probably expect to make some money. Individual artists who have low overhead and are doing it for the love of it probably have a better experience on Youtube as that’s where the audience is?

[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not wrong but it would be a nice alternative at the very least. That's why I talked about ads so they also have an incentive beyond donations if they want to monetize. Perhaps a download button with the itch.io system would also be an option. It's just something that doesn't exist yet and I think has great potential.

[–] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s why I talked about ads so they also have an incentive beyond donations if they want to monetize.

Ads are a technical challenge. It is easy to track how many users are listening to a stream, and therefore how many users hear an ad. The hard part is keeping instance admins from faking these results to overcharge for ads, since they have full control over the computing equipment that are tracking listeners to ads.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musicians (and all artists) ultimately want to get their art in front of an audience.

Right now the existing big platforms serve that purpose.

Any new service is in a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation trying to attract an audience with no content and trying to attract content with no audience.

[–] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the "Bandcamp situation"?

[–] Redhotkurt@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They just laid off half their staff

Edit: after they got bought out. Hooray capitalism! https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/half-of-bandcamps-staff-laid-off-after-songtradr-acquisition/ar-AA1ijuTX

[–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The have laid off half their stuff and I think they're getting sold.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

It's the other way around: they've been sold (second time) and the new owners laid off half of their staff.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not what you're looking for, but I think in this context Jamendo deserves a mention.

I found lots of great songs and artists there that I listen to daily.

[–] aes@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I nominate itch to cannibalise the fucker

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

You could always create one