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It seems pretty clear that street-level imaging on OSM is pretty lacking, unless you only want to see highways.

I'm looking to start mapping street-level images for my city, but it seems like there are three players (integrated in the OSM editor), and I don't know which to commit to:

-KartaView

-Mapillary

-mapilio

My gut is to go with the one with the largest user base (Mapillary), but they are owned by Facebook and who knows what direction they will take in the future or what our images will actually be used for in the long-run.

Karta seems dead.

And Mapilio seems like a knock-off of Mapillary, but with a much smaller user base and an uncertain future.

Are any worth investing hundreds of hours of time to?

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[–] Doudouosm@en.osm.town 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@Showroom7561 You could add the emerging #GeoVisio / #Panoramax to the alternatives to Mapillary, KartaView, and Mapillio: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoVisio.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Looks interesting, but it's not baked into OSM, so the usefulness for mappers would be severely limited.

[–] Thibaultmol@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

*yet
it's being developed by OSM FR. So it's DEF going to get implemented into osm tools down the lines. Geovisio is pretty barebones atm.
But the idea is similar to lemmy and mastodon and other federated services. Instead of having one giant server like mapillary, each community can have it's own server and in the future they could federate together.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

it's being developed by OSM FR

We'll, that certainly changes things! Looks like I'll be keeping an eye on the project after all 😀

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

None of them is "baked into" OSM, they are available in the iD editor, which is currently the default editor on the openstreetmap.org website.

  • You can access the OpenStreetMap database in a lot other ways not just via the main website
  • You can edit the OpenStreetMap database with a lot of other programs, not just the default iD, via the main website. Me personally rarely edit there (JOSM ftw!), so it was a bit confusing you call it "baked into".

Don't forget, OSM is a geographic database, not a direct competitor to services like Google Maps.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, what I mean is that the default editor has these street-level services already there for mappers to use, so they have an advantage.

Mapillary, for example, is also the only street-level option in OSMAND, so even users who aren't mapping can use the data easily.

So, if I were to commit to a service to add data to, I would want it to be the one that would get the most user exposure by default.

"Baked-in" might not have been the best way to describe it, but if it's available in the default editor, then it narrows down my options.

[–] zbych@szmer.info 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to upload photos to Mapillary, but after takeover by FB I deleten my account.Now I still haven't found reliable option to upload street images.

[–] Thibaultmol@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

i mean I get... but.... the images are still CC-BY-SA, if anything: since the met takeover you're allowed to use the images commercially without any license. That wasn't the case before.
i'm not pro meta. But I don't think they're doing anything evil in this department....

[–] bbbhltz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can always do more than one... There is a blo post about someone who mapped their entire town. Took them some time to do it. They uploaded to Mapillary and another, don't remember which.

[–] Doudouosm@en.osm.town 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@bbbhltz Are you maybe referring to this blog post about capturing all the streets of Brussels in 360° pictures?

https://openstreetmap.be/en/2023/07/23/stéphane-streetview-brussels.html

@Showroom7561

[–] bbbhltz 2 points 11 months ago

YES and https://panoramax.fr/ is the other imagery website I was trying to remember! Awesome.