I started getting the popups recently. Tried blocking the elements with uBlock, but in turn it would pause the video 2 seconds in. Pretty annoying. So I said screw it and installed an extension that would redirect the youtube watch page to an Invidious instance. Might as well make the transition now before they completely block adblockers for good. Screw Google!
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What extension do you use to redirect youtube page?
Not the original commenter , but I'd think is Libredirect
Dang, had no idea this existed. Thanks!
Thanks!
Google’s pretty bad
Indeed. They are starting to piss me off with all their BS.
It’s pretty grim
Umm I don't think they care. They have a monopoly on amateur video hosting and only make money off of it with ads. If you are watching without ads or premium then you are costing them money. They do not care about your outrage. This isn't reddit where it might have caused a long term permanent degradation to their content, the people posting stuff want you to pay or have ads as well. Users do not act as moderators or content providers (I mean I'm sure most content providers are users as well but they want ad revenue). They have just ignored ad blocking for long enough to get monopolies in their areas (browser, YouTube) and are now getting rid of that problem. I'm honestly amazed at how they took over the browser market. Almost everything is chromium based now. Even email. They may not have a monopoly, but they certainly made themselves the standard.
Tldr: they aren't doing it slow for fear of outrage. They did it slow to get a monopoly.
The youtube thing is an annoyance. The one that's REAL concerning is what happens when Google eventually forces Firefox out of the market by convincing everyone to build their websites in such a way as to only run on Chromium based browsers. I mean, American Anti-Trust laws are just completely fucking gutted, so it's not like there will be any consequence to them doing that. But once they do, they'll have a veritable monopoly on the internet. At least the internet most people interact with.
I would call it pretty fast, I got the popup for the first time less than a month ago and I already rely on the magic uBlock does to even be able to watch YouTube.
I got the pop ups for a while, then they went away. They are back again. Fortunately I am still able to ignore it and not see any adds. If there is a time where I am forced to watch adds, it will hurt, but I will give up YouTube. I hope others give it up and don't cave if it comes to that.
I gave up reddit the day apollo stopped working and I will quit youtube the day I have to see any ads whatsoever. It just frees up time to do other, more fulfilling, things.
What, you mean that clicking "not interested" in the fourteenth WW2 documentary in a row about "What if the nazis won" isn't fulfilling??
FreeTube still works flawlessly.
You are goddamn right about that one. Though I think Youtube is being petty with this war against adblockers, none of the major browsers block Youtube ads by default afaik.
10 million on uBlock alone, easy to see how thats a huge untapped market
Sure. A huge untapped market of people who don't want anything to do with VPN ads.
How can YouTube interfer with adblockers in Firefox/Librewolf/IceCat?
Client side web DRM is coming, which is why Google makes browsers and OSs now.
Adblock will be prohibited for “security”.
Relevant link: https://interpeer.io/blog/2023/07/google-vs-the-open-web/
Bottom line: Google want to introduce a live certification process for web clients so that webservers can potentially discriminate against specific configurations.
And how much power does Google have to force that on websites that reject it and users who use Lbrewolf or IceCat?
All the power that an advertisement network can buy. Especially youtube since it's owned by google. And advertisers will be happy to have a way of forcing site visitors to run ads/malware or else they will not get served the content.
It's similar to certain bank apps refusing to function on Android devices with an unlocked bootloader: you want the convenience of an e-banking application (/ad-driven corporate website)? -- Your device (/web browser) "security" must be verified by the "authority" who actually owns your operating system, else you won't. Everyone* will "be loving" their secure devices, because they "just work".
^*who^ ^is^ ^a^ ^potential^ ~~^customer^~~ ^buyer^ ^and^ ^therefore^ ^relevant^
Google is trying to use their dominance to actually own the www. The comment/issue section of the github site of the proposal is quite enlightening, if you have the time ... especially their reactions on the general dismissal and condemnation of the proposal as unethical.
I do not use the native YouTube website. I do not have a Google/Gmail account. I do not use chromium, Chrome, or Edge, or Brave. I disable webscrpts and manually temporarily enable them as needed with all webscripts disabled again after Ivclose the browser. I don't use nathive Android or iPhone. I have all 3rd party scripts and cookies blocked by default.
I never interact with any Google tracking or Google service on any of my electronic devices. I do not use Google search. Whatever happens with Google I will not see since I do not access anything Google on a monthly basis.
Would ad nauseam work since it clicks ads for you?
They’re trying
wdym
People have been chasing adblockers since the dawn of the internet.