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Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, There Aren't Enough Players (www.macrumors.com)
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[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of numbers, one of the reasons Valve is reluctant to develop CS2 for Mac is that Apple devices do not provide native support for the Vulkan API that the game is based on. Vulkan was designed to succeed OpenGL and address some of the latter's shortcomings, and while there is an open-source library called MoltenVK that provides a Vulkan implementation on top of Apple's Metal graphics API, it still lacks some of Vulkan's advanced features.

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[–] Iceman@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, pretty common for Apple to be like this.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How can there be players if the game isn't on the platform? Quite the conundrum.

Even with the SteamDeck, MacOS still has more market share, and thus potentially more users than Linux. And yet there is a native Linux version of the game. I'm not a fan of Apple but that's a weak excuse.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

My friend tried playing csgo on Mac and it sucked ass

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hi Valve, do you think maybe that’s because you haven’t invested in it and have therefore created a self fulfilling prophecy? The hardware is and has been more than capable.

[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But apples policies are not. There is a reason valve goes full on Linux.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hear you but Valve is arguing that it’s about the lack of player base not Apple policies.

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[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Having capable hardware doesnt mean itll get supported well. Nvidia is the current largest dgpu vendor by a landslide (>80%) but doesnt support linux well. Turns out, hardware companies policies makes porting software harder. In context of apple, its by mandating Metal graphics api, and not allowing for the open source option of vulkan on OSX natively. Its apple putting more work on devs, when they can choose to also support Vulkan so that virtually all modern platforms could run a game without having to resort to conpatibility layers.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

They didn’t say that though — they said it was the lack of players

[–] mythic_tartan@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Anyone booting to Linux on an M1 for gaming?