So Chromium?
Just use Firefox, its the better browser anyways.
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Almost all of my Linux devices have both chromium-browser and Firefox installed. Firefox is my default, but there are some apps out there that work a lot better in something chromium-based.
Ungoogled-chromium is a good substitute in that case
Haven't used Ungoogled Chromium in a couple years, but I've seen some criticisms of it even compared to regular Chrome: https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/
Thank you for sharing this, I was unaware. I wonder if any of this has been addressed recently as the linked article is two years old (not demeaning its value, just wondering if the devs saw the article and decided to improve ungoogled-chromium).
They still disable CRLSets and have binaries built by "contributors" not in an automated fashion by the developer themselves.
Yeah, that's why I pointed out that I haven't used it in a couple years, I have no idea about the direction development took after that, so maybe some folks that work on the development of Chromium and its many forks can give us some insight. Personally, I just decided to stick to Firefox tweaked with Arkenfox as my main browser on desktop and I have Brave with all its annoyances turned off as a backup option
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Brave might have started as a basic Chromium fork, but the various privacy/security features they added do make them standout now.
But they still contribute to google's monopoly over web standards.
It is really disingenuous to say "X is just a skin of Y" just because they share the same browser engine or are forked from the same browser. Like you say, there are a lot of changes.
Aye Firefox gang 🦊🤘
I already use Firefox but brave is just better at fingerprinting protection
There's CanvasBlocker for Firefox that can do fingerprint protection.
Arkenfox is also good at protection from naive fingerprinting
Adding add-on makes you more fingerprintable, not less.
It depends. Many addons have effects that can be tested for and fingerprinted, but it's not always straight forward. There's a way to detect any specific chrome extension, but doesn't work on firefox because it uses unique extension ids per person.
With addons like CanvasBlocker, they generate random values for a bunch of apis like canvas. So each time you will look unique, but it changes every time so you're not easily tracked. I'd assume it's similar to what Brave does, but I haven't looked into the details. Some stuff isn't randomized by default, so they can get info like timezone and languages, but probably not enough to give you a unique identity.
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Why not use Librewolf? Fork of Firefox, hardened and resists fingerprinting. Scores pretty damn well on https://privacytests.org and pairs well with Mull on Android.
AFAIK there are no actively developed Brave forks.
I use librewolf on my work laptop it removes all cookies every time you close it, this wouldn't be a problem on mobile as I already set my phone browser(fennec) to do that but on my personal computer it crosses the border from I can deal with it to too inconvenient
Firefox. Or if you don't want to spend time configuring it, Librewolf.
I also recommend Librewolf. It's very good at what it does. They also have a list of recommended addons to enhance your privacy.
The only issue with librewolf is that updates sometimes take a few days. For that reason I’m still using ff+arkenfox
All of the crypo crap can be turned off in settings.
And the setting really does work. The crap is completely gone afterwards. There is no grayed out symbols, or nag screens or anything.
Or more accurately: can be turned on. Everything crypto is disabled by default.
Functionality wise yes, but it's visible in the UI and frontpage and that can be disabled/removed .
Just switch off brave rewards and sponsored content. And, your fork is ready.
We recommend just switching to Brave and disabling the 'crytpo crap' yourself rather than using a fork that is liable to go unmaintained and miss updates.
I agree the crypto stuff is super annoying, but it's a really nice and clean browser after you disable all that and tweak the settings (which you'd probably want to go through and configure with a new browser anyway)
even as a crypto user & dev, brave's crypto shit is annoying af, it's inferior by far to what everyone else uses & they push it on ur face & make u have to remove it.
i'd rather just use firefox or even microsoft edge, even for crypto stuff
If you want Brave without the crypto crap then spend a minute or two and turn it all off in settings. You'll never see it again.
Except on Android, unfortunately. The overflow menu is full of all of those features right at the bottom -- prime thumb real estate.
Looks like Brave is the best for privacy over all.
https://privacytests.org/
That site and testing is run by a Brave employee, right? I'd be very skeptical of Brave's high scores.
That's with firefox on default settings. If you turn it on to 'strict' and install uBlock, then it wins.
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Bromite used to be great, but unfortunately the dev seems to have abandoned it.
I've seen people talking about Mull, Mulch, Fulguris and a couple others. I think Mulch is tied to a specific Android ROM, and the others are Firefox forks.
i left a big comment regarding this in another thread, TL;DR combination of brave on desktop and a lot of non-brave things on android, privacy browser + mull + DDG
I wouldn't want Brave on anything myself. The company has proven it isn't trustworthy many times over.
i agree, but my unpopular opinion is that mozilla has also proven this repeatedly, with nothing and nobody being universally better. privacy people love firefox, but i spend a lot of time with each major version's release notes figuring out how to undo the new telemetry (increasing integration with pocket, firefox suggest, location that won't turn off).
my threat model is 'they're all evil, including mozilla', so there are additional rings around everything
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I use fennec as my regular browser on android and mulch as the webview implementation
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Mulch is tied to a specific Android ROM
Yes, that's because it requires webview to be patched, it's the same reason that Vanadium is only available for GrapheneOS. They do use some of Vanadium's patches though.
Firefox, with uBlock Origin and CanvasBlocker. I'd stay away from the Chromium monopoly.
At that point just use Firefox / Librewolf, os just turn off all of the brave rewards crap ( crypto )...
Never noticed the crypto stuff Don't use it Also, I use Vivaldi
You can easily turn it off and never see it again!
well, brave's crypto is opt in anyways, it wont be used unless you manually enable it yourself
Firefox paired with arkenfox's userjs, or librewolf which basically configures all of that for you, are also good options.
Use Firefox my dude, switched from Brave and haven't gone back
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