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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

remember: you don't have to be vegan to worry about animal welfare

[–] muix@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

However, it does help if you want to minimise your personal contribution towards animal suffering.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Also don't have to care about animal welfare to be vegan

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

But there's a difference between animals and capital goods producing meat.

The only goal for a farmer is in the end how much money you can make. And yes healthy and happy animals taste better but people buy cheap shit so usually the welfare isn't paid by people.

[–] Rengoku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I only worry about my cheap eggs and meat.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

The history of food labels is really interesting and sad. It's a classic example of regulatory capture. Even the term "organic" doesn't come close to what many people think it does. The best most of us can do is find a local farmer or coop you trust, ideally one that practices permaculture, that sells to the public. Unfortunately, that can be a challenge to find and can be prohibitive for those with lower incomes or lack of transportation.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Killed Humanly

by Juan.

[–] duxbellorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People who advocate against animal cruelty are a special kind of stupid. Totally destructive of any (fundamentally not so bad) businesses that give time the time of day, and utterly ineffective at actually meaningfully changing the mass cruelty of the meat industry. Absolutely catastrophic virtue signaling. PETA “shelters” have a higher kill (euthanasia) rate than any other organization.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you try to say? Because one bad organization does bad things, no one can say we should move away from torturing animals for extra profit?

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Totally destructive of any (fundamentally not so bad) businesses that give time the time of day, and utterly ineffective at actually meaningfully changing the mass cruelty of the meat industry

This is an interesting collection of words. It's not clear what you're trying to say, but I'm left with the sense that I probably disagree.

Maybe collect your thoughts, work out what you want to say and try again?

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you actually care about animals dying in kill shelters the solutions are to open more shelters, do more to stop abusive conditions for animals before they get out of hand, and most importantly stop breeding animals. Animals are killed either because shelters don't want to take them in do to their condition or they are too full. You can blame the no kill shelters as well, because they don't take in every animal. But they aren't really to blame either, people who support the industries that breed pets are.

[–] duxbellorum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Preaching to the choir here.