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While Elon's then-partner Grimes was recording her part in the game as cyborg popstar Lizzy Wizzy, the erratic tech billionaire turned up with an antique firearm to "insist" on being included in the game. "The studio guys were like sweating," Grimes is quoted as saying. Musk adds "I told them that I was armed but not dangerous".

Apparently, the developers relented at the time, though it's unclear if Musk did actually get the cameo in the end.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 169 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Elon is literally everything Cyberpunk warns is about. He's the biggest corpocunt the world has ever seen. Arasaka is exactly what Elon wants X Corp to be. He's actually trying to make chips that get implanted into your brain. He wants his own Relic. He wants to be the immortal Saburo Arasaka.

The lack of self awareness is astounding.

[–] ConsciousCode 23 points 1 year ago

Can't be a billionaire if you pass a certain threshold of self-awareness, it's the rules.

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[–] frog 144 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So... basically, Musk turned up at a studio and threatened the devs with a gun (which antique or not, could have been loaded and functional - shooting with antique guns is a thing) to make them put him in the game?

I know there's a massive cultural difference around guns between the UK and the US, but I'm genuinely struggling to see how "a man has turned up to our studio with a gun because he wants us to put him in our game" doesn't warrant a call to the police.

[–] VegaLyrae@kbin.social 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

US gun owner here:

It 100% warrants a call to the police.

Sounds like assault with a deadly weapon, and if he took it out to show, then it's brandishing. It doesn't matter if it was non-firming because the target didn't know that, and typically these laws are written to be what "a reasonable person would believe".

Also, at the time this happened he was a known user of Marijuana and thus not eligible to own a firearm, as that rule had not yet been struck down.

[–] frog 20 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the explanation! It sounds fairly similar to the law here, where it's based on what a reasonable person would believe - so even waving a realistic toy gun at someone would get someone in trouble, if the person being threatened with it would reasonably believe it was real.

[–] reverendsteveii 13 points 1 year ago

Sounds like assault with a deadly weapon

If charged as a felony, you could be facing a sentence of two to four years in State prison. Regular assault (Penal Code § 240), is always charged as a misdemeanor offense.

The instrument used includes any type of firearm, knife, bat, car, or anything other type of weapon that could produce significant harm to the victim.

In order to prove a charge of assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecutor has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you assaulted another person and you used a deadly weapon or force that would likely result in great bodily injury.

An assault charge does not require that you actually make physical contact with or injure the person.

https://www.cronisraelsandstark.com/assault-with-deadly-weapon-penal-code-245-a-1#:~:text=Assault%20with%20a%20Deadly%20Weapon%20%2D%20Penal%20Code%20245(a)(,four%20years%20in%20State%20prison.

If this was in California he is absolutely guilty of assault with a deadly weapon based on what he has admitted to personally.

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's rich, the law dose not apply. He could have paid his way out of a few murder charges too.

[–] frog 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hence why, when calling the police, you wouldn't say who it is. Just "a man" or "a person" has come in with the gun. Which happens to be true, since until proved otherwise, Musk can indeed be accurately described as a person. Whether he manages to wiggle out of it later is less important than the immediate problem of getting the gun-wielding lunatic out of the studio.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk can indeed be accurately described as a person

Kinda pushing things here, but I see where your coming from.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's unclear if this even happened in the US; CD Projekt is Polish...

Also consider that the gun wan apparently, no shit, a flintlock pistol. They may have thought it was a prop or something.

[–] reverendsteveii 28 points 1 year ago

I have shot and killed a deer with a flintlock gun. They're not toys or props. He committed assault with a deadly weapon and the whole word is just like "Oh, that's just wish.com iron man. You know how he is."

[–] frog 18 points 1 year ago

I don't think the Polish are more likely to be fine with having a gun waved at them than any other nationality.

[–] zik@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Grimes would have recorded at a studio in the US along with the other English language voice actors.

[–] YMS@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

The English voice recordings for Cyberpunk 2077 were all done in London and LA. So it's basically sure that it wasn't Poland, and it's much more likely that it was LA than London in this case.

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[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whether or not the gun was loaded, the person wielding it sure was, and it's much easier to say "Call the cops on him" if you're not worried about whether that guy might be rich and vindictive enough to ruin your life over it.

No matter whether Musk would have actually had any way of doing so, the fear of the possibility alone can be enough to cow you into compliance.

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[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What a ridiculous society we live in that someone can be so rich that they get to threaten people with a gun and don't get arrested. What an unhinged asshole he is.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even need to be rich, being a cop is more that enough.

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[–] gingerrich 56 points 1 year ago

What an absolute cunt of a human being.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

it's unclear if Musk did actually get the cameo in the end.

Uh, what? How is that unclear? Is he in the game? No?? Then he didn't "get the cameo", even if they went so far as to map his face, etc...

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of drugged out street filth with guns in the game. You SURE he didn't have a cameo?

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[–] Fhek@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

“PAY ATTENTION TO ME! LOOK AT ME!”

[–] gaael 36 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Off-topic below.

Btw, I saw some posters here still use the slur "cunt".

It's my understanding that depending on which country you're from (eg Australia or UK) this slur might not carry a sexist connotation in the mainstream culture, so I don't think any of you used it with the intent of being sexist.

Nevertheless, in the feminist circles I belong to, uskng a word that describes the genitalia of AFAB as a slur carries a sexist charge whether it was the intent or not. So we try to create new slur reflexes for ourselves and tend to use other words that do not carry an offensive charge towards a discriminated category.

Please do not take this as a personal attack or an attempt to tell you how to speak, I just think we can do better as a community if everyone spots the stuff they are the more sensitive to and explains to the others why they see a problem.

On-topic. Elon, please get lost in outer space in one of your stupid rockets.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

No more using the word dick either guys! Oh wait while we're on it no more saying anything offensive guys, G rated at all times wouldn't want to accidentally offend anyone.

[–] Erdrick 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Words have meanings and their acceptance by society changes over time.
I’m middle of the road on the topic.
To me though, “dick” and “cunt” are perfectly effective words that I employ as needed.

Also, relevant link…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disability-related_terms_with_negative_connotations

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[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OFF TOPIC:

Speaking from a feminstic but also Australian position, I think it's kinda problematic to outright ban language internationally when the connotation of concern is specific to one culture. We use that word pretty liberally here, and it isn't done so with remotely the same definition; instead, it is typically used interchangeably with "dickhead" and "arsehole". Whilst I definitely support your efforts, I don't think this is the right way to go about it, as it's a very clear use of American exceptionalism when Americans, taken as a part of the world, make up a minority of people on the Internet.

ON TOPIC:

Yeahhhh, Elon both frightens and disgusts me. What a selfish twat.

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[–] MarioSpeedWagon@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 37 points 1 year ago

Slur? That's not a slur. Fuck outta here with that

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AFAB

While I don't disagree with the general argument you're presenting, you must be pretty deep in those feminist circles to assume that you can just use an abbreviation like AFAB in casual conversation, and expect people to just understand what you're talking about.

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[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So, serious question: why is "dick" okay and "cunt" is not? The former is much more common than the latter, both as an insult and (especially) as a reference to genitalia. While "cunt" is generally seen (in the US) as a more severely insulting word, it's also rarely used in reference to genitalia (in my experience as a cis male).

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[–] utubas@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have too much free time.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't be a dick. Sorry for the slur

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[–] gaael 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Off-topic only, has nothing to do with the content related to CP2077 and the muskrat

So, based on some comments here, it looks like I came across as trying to ban language, to forbid words, to restrict your free speech.

As stated in my original post, this was and still is not my intention. I have not attacked personally the persones using "cunt", nor have I said no one should say that.

I just shared a reflexion, because that's why I sign up on social media platforms.

I am happy that some people felt safe enough in this community to explain why they think my views are incorrect, I actually learned some things thanks to you.

I'm not trying to ban the "cunt" word from language - and if I was, it would be so laughable to think I could have that kind of influence.

I just believe that the words we use have an effect on people. And I think it's worth it to sometimes pause and wonder which words we are using and if we can use better ones.

I'm not going to engage further on this topic in this channel, it's probably not the most appropriate space.

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[–] reverendsteveii 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They told him to get fucked, so one of his chode toadies on xitter started a rumor that they added him to the game and then removed him in a patch.

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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are so many successful people that make me not want to participate in this country.

...Because I know that if they were able to make it then this country is bullshit.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they ended up adding him him in any way, he should be just removed. That piece of shit parasite shouldnt get any recognition anywhere. Not even negative.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What if they turned him into a drooling hobo or cyber psycho who fried his brain with a homemade implant? I could be down with that. If not, I’m counting on a mod to remove his ass.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should have put him in a game with the gun while commanding an apartheid army.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or put his mummified corpse as an Arasaka spoil of the corporate war.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Hidden in a Badlands emerald mine.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make it a subtle easter egg where a Corpo CEO packed with neural cyberwares crashed and burned in his self-driving Caliburn lol

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't own this game and I don't intend on buying any time soon.

But when I eventually get it, if I ~~think~~ find that figure in the game, I'm going after it and throw it off a very tall building. Twice.

[–] bermuda 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I played through the main story twice and I dont ever remember encountering a character based on Elon or a character voiced by him. His then-girlfriend Grimes has a character with a medium length side-questline, but that character isn't based on her either. Part of the quest means "dealing with" her new boyfriend, but I didn't really think that guy was based on Elon either.

There are a lot of corpo people in the game that you deal with, but most of them are just parodies of all billionaires, not really one in particular.

Would be shitty if he's in Phantom Liberty though.

[–] reverendsteveii 11 points 1 year ago

https://www.eurogamer.net/no-cyberpunk-2077-didnt-remove-the-elon-musk-npc-because-he-wasnt-even-in-the-game-to-begin-with

You did not encounter elon, a character based on him, or a character voiced by him in cyberpunk 2077

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] muse@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He's violently murdered in game and you get to stuff his body in a trash chute. And you get paid for it. 10/10

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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The thing about being "Armed" is the fact you are indeed dangerous. As a gun is a tool with one job, to kill people.

It's not like a gun is a fashion accessory for these people..... right?

[–] storksforlegs 11 points 1 year ago

What a tool.

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