Regardless if the guy deserved it or not, killing them in a country you are supposed to be on good terms with is not the way to go about it.
At this point India is barely even trying to hide it.
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Also, the guy in question was a Canadian citizen.
It's too early to confirm who did it, but it looks like it just happened again:
An alleged (edit: alleged by India) Khalistani terrorist was just murdered in his home in Winnepeg.
And all the Indian news outlets are claiming the guy was a gangster and that this was a gang-related shooting. Meanwhile the local Winnipeg police are just like "Uh, we have no evidence on that as of yet and have made no statements about that, where the frick are you getting this claim from?"
Yeah, I updated the headline to make it clear that the allegations were by India, because people were rightly pointing out that "alleged Khalistani terrorist" was giving them too much credit.
India's getting blatant and nobody cares because of China.
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never previously in the friendly and orderly West.
Well, started reading the article, got to this line and cringed.
It is a vague reference that they are following the route of China and Russia by ignoring and abusing the laws of western states.
Oh no, its a clear reference to the blind eye the west & the world has turned to the ongoing genocide of Muslims & Christians in India by Modi govt & the Hindu supremacist thugs it supports.
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The laws of Western states that the West only selectively follows? Gee...
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For a kinder and friendlier colonism.
yes, that line had me laughing too.
As an Indian I agree. But I need to see conclusive proof first. I don't want to see my country degrades itself to the same level as CIA / NSA or Mossad. If we did something wrong there should be adequate consequences.
The thing is we're scared of China and you're the only developing country of over a billion left, on top of your ideological and language similarities with us. Even Trudeau is treading as lightly as he can given the situation.
If the west is scared of China, then India's PM Modi is terrified of them. In June 2020, When China invaded India in Galwan and beat our 20 soldiers to death, Modi publicly state that nothing happened in Galwan. Since then he has been unable to take China's name, even when China built an entire village with paved roads in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.
The Modi govt that rules India is ideologically fascist dictatorial, majoritarian, and violently Hindu supremacist. If that is also your country's ideological stance then we do have a lot in common.
Maybe I should have said historical ideological similarities. India has been a democracy, which makes you seem much more trustworthy than China. Democracy is having a hard time in many places right now, though.
I understand your point of view but don't you think these things should have been considered thoroughly before going public in this manner? It is only fair to ask for conclusive proof if you accuse something serious like this in public. It is safe to assume all diplomatic effort has been failed from both side. Also as far as I read in the news, the investigation itself is ongoing. Don't you think all these confusions could have avoided if Canada decided to go public after concluding the investigation? That way India would have very little wiggle room to refute the hard evidence presented.
That would be good. The thing is spies are involved, so I don't know if all the evidence he can see will be released for decades. I don't think the Prime Minister would have brought it up at all unless he had to, given how terrible this is for everybody.
What do you think, would the Indian government do this? There are a lot of Khalistan supporters in Canada and it seems like Hindutva would argue for a very tough treatment of that, but I'm not Indian.
I am a common citizen I literally have no internal knowledge, especially in these top secret national security stuff. As a sane human being what I can say is that incentive to commit the alleged crime is there. That doesn't necessarily mean we actually did it. And yes as a society currently we are in ultra nationalistic clusterf**k. So public sentiment is there to support this kind nefarious behavior domestically.
It is really unfortunate situation. At one hand it's foolish to blindly believe anyone (irrespective of their designation county or affiliation) without concrete evidence, especially regarding issues as serious as this. On the other hand I also kinda understand how hard it is to make espionage related evidences publicly available, even for world leaders. In any case, diplomacy from both sides failed us. Knee jerk reactions in international relationship seldom help.
Above all, what I would like to point out is that, this is a kind of situation where nobody wins.
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What evidence do you want to see about a state-sponsored assassination? It's happened twice now and you think it's an accident?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-homicide-victim-wanted-india-1.6975772
Just yesterday.
IIn the past ndia has never been a terrorist country, not even at the worst provocation. But the current regime is fascist and Modi is desperate. As Governor Satya Pal Malik has said about India's PM Modi 'he can do anything, he can go to any extent'.
And if we didn't there should be equally measured consequences for the once who made acquisitions without adequate proof
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India's Modi govt that practices domestic terrorism on its own citizens within india, wants to make India known as a terrorist state in the global stage.
modi isnt humble and so isnt his government. modis shitty support for russia is wrong. he has already lost touch with reality. i think the image of india in the west is falling rapidly, but i am sure modiist know why everyone else is wrong. time to rename the country. it is no longer happy nice india, bad bahRAT.
India's image is better now than ever
The main news I see about India is religious hate or rape tbh.
That is what Modi's fascism and Hindu supremacism has turned India into.
It's rape all the way down, Randy.
If Canada follows the 9/11 protocol, they would invade pakistan
Nah, too close to India. Invade Iran on bullshit pretenses that have a tenuous connection with the situation even taken at face value.
but in old Canadian fashion, we're just going to bend over and take it
The PM is literally calling them out in public and starting crap with the Modi administration over it.
Are we pretending the West doesn't order murders in other countries?
Well, for one, I doubt Canada does it, and for another, the Americans at least have the self-respect to own what they're doing when somebody calls them out on it instead of switching into crybully mode and throw a diplomatic temper tantrum like Modi is.
I don't recall Obama ever pulling diplomats and visas from Pakistan when their government was angry about US airstrikes in their country.
"I didn't do it and if I did it was justified" just looks childish.
America doesn't "own up" to anything unless forced to, not sure what America you're talking about
I don't think anybody ever pretended that anybody else was flying Predator drones over Pakistan and occasionally hellfiring a camp. I mean, it's not like they apologize, but generally their reaction is "yes, we did that. What's your point?"
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nobody should do this… the west does, and that’s also shit… right now, this is the event that we’re talking about though and citing the west is just whataboutism
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Are we pretending we should give the west a pass on that? Should they be allowed to with a clean conscience?
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Is there any evidence that India ordered the assassination?
If there is, it won't be shared currently due to it being an ongoing investigation.
But something must be there if the Canadian government is making this statement instead of ignoring it. Sounds like the media was going to push the story anyway, but they got ahead of it.
The USA already said they aren't distancing themselves from it and working with Canada with this.
We will see how things turn out, but things are pointing to more than likely India did something. Especially with the swarm of comments/bots pulling the whole "well he deserved it" and "hypocrites" all over.
If there is, it won’t be shared currently due to it being an ongoing investigation.
Plus, there's probably spies involved.
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Yes, Canadian government says they have it.
Don't worry, there won't be. Canada has been allowing itself to be a pushover for a while now
prove me wrong, people.
What, you mean like when Canada stuck to it's guns with the arrest of Meng Wanzhou even after the hostages were taken?
Or like how Canada hasn't had diplomatic relations with the Saudis since 2018 when Canada refused to stop calling them out on their human rights abuses?
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Canada's fascist roots are going to be impossible to hide when dealing with this sort of thing.
EDIT because apparently the obvious "they were going to find a way let them get away with it" wasn't unhinged enough for the internet to have it as their first thought.
We have done what now? India has only been a country since like 1947, what are these long trains of abuses you refer to here in the west? Chippendales?
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