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Idk why I always wake up with either my sides or neck or smth hurting when I wake up but that didn't happen while I stayed at a hotel. It's not like I'm an old broken man who should be waking up expecting this.

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago

Be very careful. An expensive mattress, if you care for it, can last a long time and will definitely help with your pains. But just because it is expensive does not mean it is actually good, let alone good for you specifically. There are many types of different mattresses and you should take some time to find one for you.

TLDR: lie down on it before buying.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a fellow side sleeper who just bought a Purple mattress, just remember to buy a plush/soft mattress. The reason you are hurting is because you are sleeping on your side on a, probably, cheap and firm mattress.

Firm mattresses are for back sleepers. Soft mattresses are for side gang, like us.

I will say Purple is just incredible if you can afford it but try it at a store first before committing. The important thing, though, is to get a soft, well-made mattress.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, I just realized, is your name a play on Søren Kierkegaard?

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, it was supposed to be snoren, but I mistyped it.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's so funny. I love Kierkegaard, you have an awesome name!

Hope you can find a better mattress to improve your sleep.

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[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sleep on my side. I love firm futons. Soft mattresses make me very sore and cause me to have poor sleep. Just because you sleep on your side doesn't mean you have to have a soft mattress.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never skimp on anything between you and the ground

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meh I don't think major mattress companies really justify they wildly inflated prices. This might have gotten better over the last few years, but you used to have to pay $2000 for something you could get shipped in a box from Amazon at $200 for similar quality.

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

There is an old proverb I heard once. "Don't cheap out on things that separate you from the ground"

When it comes to things like mattresses, shoes, and chairs do your research and buy the best option you can. It will save you a lot of pain later in life

[–] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.bett1.de/anti-kartell

https://youtu.be/OUjFoFGjQyI

There is a cartell in the matress market. Dont buy pricy ones. Watch the documentation on the youtube link. Its made by public tv from germany.

The link is the store of the dude that stood up and fought against the cartell. And he survived. The united-cartell-angency (bundeskartellamt) found out about the cartell throught this dude and fined the cartels pretty hard. It is still not destroyed sadly and the prices of over 500 bucks for a fucking mattress are everywhere even though it might be a absolute dogshit mattress.

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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, but with caveats. If you go to a big mattress store and buy from the big brands (Sealy, Simmons, Serta, etc.) you are getting a mattress that is cheaply built at a high price due to shitty private equity firms buying up the brands and squeezing every bit of value from them.

I ended up spending a fair bit ($2600 but the "equivalent" at the major chain store was $3400) on a locally manufactured mattress with more expensive materials like latex foam and wool but only after I tried a bunch and found one that kept me nice and aligned. Immediately I stopped waking up with the type of pain that would stay with me all day (I would be slightly stiff for 15 minutes instead), and now that my body is used to it I only very rarely wake up in pain.

The big thing is to find somewhere without shitty sales tactics, and to try a bunch of mattresses out and find out what works for you. I didn't like the memory foam mattresses, but some people love them. There is a reason why they make firm, medium, and soft mattresses. There are mattresses where the springs are the same all over, or vary based on where people keep their body weight.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Maybe. I just bought a shikibuton that was $500. It's a Japanese floor mattress. It solved almost all of my pain problems. I've been sleeping on it for about 3 weeks now, and honestly it's amazing. The floor doesn't sag so everything stays aligned.

I also bought a $5000 mattress that I've yet to receive. Only reason I bought it was because my wife was mad I bought something for me only (she thinks it's stupid that I'm willing to sleep on the floor at all...anyway...). It felt nice at the store...but we'll see when it gets here. It was an Aireloom Luxury Firm.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

My wife is on an Aireloom. She asked for the hardest mattress in the store (probably 100 models) and the sales guy really tried to talk her out of it because it's THAT hard. She could sleep on bare concrete and that mattress has been a godsend to her.

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[–] Archaeoptryx@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Before commiting to buying a $1000+ mattress, try getting yourself a foam mattress topper. A good one is only like $100. My wife and I sleep on a old generic mattress with one of these and literally sleep like angels. Every time I come home from a vacation it feels like sleeping on a cloud, compared to a hotel mattress.

I know other people will die on a hill trying to convince themselves that their $5k mattress was worth it. But in my opinion, a $100-200 memory foam topper can make a world of difference.

[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mattress: something firm like a tatami mat with a thin futon on top. Your lower back and hips will be happy.

Pillow: buckwheat husk filled with a dust cover. Your neck, shoulders, and sinuses will be happy.

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[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

over the last 15 years or so I would have spent $10k on mattresses of all types.. inner spring, micro spring, full latex, a mix of above.. all end up with body indentations that cause back pain. In the end I bought a cheap mattress in a box (Koala Brand) that is hard as a brick and a latex topper, it has been wonderful

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

I bought a $600 foam one at Costco, and it's the best mattress I've ever slept on. Unfortunately, this makes every other bed extremely uncomfortable, so YMMV.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

I went to a mattress boutique and ordered my mattress there. I would never do it differently again, I love it every night. The saleswoman took great care of trying the different mattresses to see which one had the backs of my girlfriend and I in the best positions and whenever I'm back from a trip I feel again the greatness of my mattress

[–] valen 7 points 1 year ago

Is it worth the money? You're going to spend something like 1/3 of your time on it. Make it a good one.

[–] tko@tkohhh.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend checking out https://www.sleeplikethedead.com/ to help choose a mattress. It's independent and free of advertisements.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Doing some top quality research here:

Mattress Types and Sex Suitability

[–] krellor@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know your age, health, etc, but there are lots of reasons we hurt other than age. Ergonomics, repetitive stress injuries, regular old injuries. It doesn't take much to compound these issues into something that interferes with your life.

I spent the last twenty years sleeping on a mattress that wasn't right for my sleep style. It didn't feel great sleeping on my side and it has a slight divot. I didn't wake up in pain, but it definitely impacted the quality of my sleep.

I recently moved and bought a new tempurpedic. I went in, went through a calibration test of sorts and tried the top recommended matches. Ended up buying the top match, which was way expensive, but I now consistently get the quality of sleep I used to get at best once a week.

Two things: the mattress was $3k, and I still have chronic shoulder pain I manage with home physical therapy.

I guess my point is, the best mattress won't fix a problem not caused by a bad mattress. You might need PT, stretching, or some other physical routine to help manage your particular pain, just like I have special exercises for my shoulder that if I stop, it will start hurting again and prevent me from sleeping on my side, no matter the mattress.

So before you throw down money on a mattress, make sure you rule other reasonable things out, and make sure you understand the return policy. E.g., of you remove the tags you can't return, of there is any discoloration, no return, etc. Just make sure you have the details down pat.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went from a cheap Amazon mattress to a fancy temperpedic mattress and it was absolutely worth every penny

What I did was I went to a mattress store to try out mattresses to see what I was looking to buy

The mattress I ended up buying was one that I laid down on and fell asleep almost instantly

Just find a local mattress store with a lot of options and start testing them out for yourself

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how do you test a mattress?

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Mattress stores let you lay down on them.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

It's not so much being expensive, just not a cheap one and one that has the firmness you need. I've had good results with $200-400 mattresses from Amazon .

[–] ViciousTurducken@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Probably. Quality typically correlates with cost and the quality of your sleep is one of the most important things in life

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mean to be condescending but try a new pillow first!

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

🥺 Sorry, pal.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 year ago

A good mattress is worth it, but don't just go into a store like Mattress Firm (despite how good the company name is) and buy whatever they've got on display. Do some research first. Costco have some good mattresses but you can't really try them out first.

Don't get one that's extremely soft because you'll probably like firmer mattresses as you get older. You can add a topper to make it softer if needed.

[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It depends. The most important aspect for a mattress is having the right stiffness, you could get the most expensive mattress in the world and it might suck for you, or it might be great. You gotta try them. If you're a side sleeper, getting a soft memory foam or hybrid mattress is probably ideal. If you overheat a lot when sleeping and can afford it, a latex mattress really helps, and is typically stiffer. If you can't afford an expensive mattress, you might want to try sleeping on a futon, which is pretty comfortable for plenty of reasons and more affordable (though not for everyone).

Also, if the sides of your neck are hurting, maybe a new pillow might help. It will certainly be cheaper to get a nice pillow than a premium mattress.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it was expensive or not but I would pay a lot of money for whatever mattress my ex had. That bed was the best sleep I ever got. Unfortunately that relationship ended really bad so I can't contact her to ask about it.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

A good mattress is absolutely worth it but it may not necessarily be good just because it's expensive. I know someone that bought an expensive mattress with lots of memory foam and one year later it went from soft to very uncomfortable after the top layer got squished a lot.

[–] Katrisia@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

In my mid twenties, I started having problems with my back, hands, elbows, etc. I stopped doing a lot of things (e.g. playing musical instruments), which helped, but the back pain persisted until I started sleeping on the floor. I was desperate, and I had heard about this solution from old anecdotes.

Since then, I've noticed that firm mattresses and very slim pillows (or soft enough pillows) are okay. Soft mattresses and big pillows bring back all the discomfort and pain in a matter of hours. I still sleep on the floor, but a mattress for me might be waiting somewhere.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I would say yes. For a good 30 years i slept on the cheapest matresses possible, because i didn't mind, always slept like a rock and never had any problems. Then for the forst time i bought a really "good" matress and it was a bit meh at first, because it was pretty hard. Then i bought a topper and that was the game changer for me. I don't even know how important the matress is anymore, but a good memory foam topper is a godsend.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on what you can afford. Foam mattresses are easy, b/c you can have them shipped, but you can't try before you buy. Hybrid mattresses are popular. They have springs inside and foam on one side. You can't flip them over, like you can with old-fashioned mattresses. Recently, I saw in a Goodwill thrift shop, a decent hybrid mattress for little money. They have a deal with a US manufacturer. I know this b/c I needed a new mattress a couple of years ago. In the process of looking, I found a couple of online sites comparing different brands and types. I seem to remember they weren't affiliated with any sellers. If I'd saved the links, I'd share them. Figuring out exactly what they're selling and comparing between brands is complicated. Good luck. P.S., Low-quality foam deteriorates quicker than pricier foam.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Try a matress pad. It's cheaper and less hassle.

[–] Uprise42@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago

Just bought one recently. We walked in and the guy immediately started showing us ones for as low as $200. I asked what the difference was between those and the display models and he started showing us some of the floor models. We really didn’t feel much difference between any of them. The ones leaning up were absolutely not worth it and uncomfortable but we went with a $1k hybrid because it felt the same as a $5k premium Stearns and Foster. We got a Sleepy with a medium stiffness. It’s a combination of memory foam and springs. It helped my back pain and I got the best night sleep in years the day we got it.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

It's more important you get the right type of mattress for you than the price. If you do go shopping for one, try to remember how that one at the hotel was. Softer? Firmer? Springy? What feels comfy for 20 minutes can feel very painful for 6 hours.

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 1 year ago

It depends on the mattress. I’ve slept on cheap mattresses until 3 years ago when I purchased a Personal Comfort mattress. They’re an adjustable mattress like Sleep Number but a little cheaper and I liked the assembly a bit better since it lets you replace individual layers should they wear out, and the mattress can be “upgraded” to something more plush over time.

It was pricy and hard to justify at first but I’ve slept so much better.

Being able to adjust the firmness has been less gimmick and actually kind of nice but probably isn’t useful to everyone. It’s handy if you’re sharing the bed with someone though.

If you order a mattress, find a place that’ll let you trial it for a month or two. You should be able to tell if it’s helping or not in that timeframe.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I bought a 1400 dollar Queen. Upgrade from my shit 200 dollar twin. It's such a huge difference. My back still hurts, but that my shitty back. But no more knee pain from the crappy mattress buckling in the middle

[–] ComplexDonut@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I bought a cheap mattress but a pretty expensive pillow (tempur), the pillow made all the difference to me. It's so crucial to my sleep quality that I have to bring it on trips, it works for any mattress.

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