this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2023
52 points (100.0% liked)

Privacy Guides

697 readers
1 users here now

In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.

This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.


You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:

Learn more...


Check out our website at privacyguides.org before asking your questions here. We've tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!

Want to get involved? The website is open-source on GitHub, and your help would be appreciated!


This community is the "official" Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be verified here. Other "Privacy Guides" communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.


Moderation Rules:

  1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.
  2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, make a suggestion on our forum first.
  3. No soliciting engagement: Don't ask for upvotes, follows, etc.
  4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be pre-approved by the mod team.
  5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.
  6. Don't repost topics which have already been covered here.
  7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and your post title must match the article headline exactly. Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.
  8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.
  9. No help vampires: This is not a tech support subreddit, don't abuse our community's willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.
  10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with evidence.
  11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on privacyguides.org. See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.
  12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.

Additional Resources:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I've been trying to take gym stuff more seriously lately and sometimes something like a fitbit seems like a great idea, are there any that don't just harvest you for minimal utility on your end?

Sorry if this has be answered before but I think searching is still weird

top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For some types of tracker, you can use a free and open source application called gadgetbridge.

I use it with my Amazfit Bip, and it works just fine. Since it's FOSS, it's something that can be audited for backdoors

[–] constantokra@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

It's a great app, and the amazfit watches have really good battery life. Some will even let you answer your calls, which I find makes me stress about my phone a lot less.

[–] altz3r0 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The spreadsheet.

Always start with the spreadsheet, and go up from there!

[–] victoryonion@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Fitotrack for running, available on F-droid.

I would have a look at Garmin devices as others have said. I had a swim2 for a few years that my daughter now wears since I got a Descent mk2i. I needed a dive computer with good range on air integration to watch my daughters gas next year when she's old enough to get certified.

As for fitness tracking I have nothing but good things to say, although the few and far between firmware updates are a drag, and I've never seen a new feature unlocked, the fact that the data I get based on the specs I purchased is great, consistent, and the damn things just always work. ___

I would check compatibility of Gadget-Bridge (open-source, no internet connection) and then use whatever gadget doesn't require register. My amazfit bip (old version) is basic for gym (not that I need it...) but for hiking I can record the track heart-rate.

[–] mr_freeze@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did this dance a while back and they all will use your data to some degree, so I opted to change the other side of the equation and maximized the utility as best I could and to do that I looked for a tracker that didn't require a subscription for features that are already in the watch.

I opted for a Garmin watch, (a refurbished Vivoactive4S, specifically), specifically for that reason and also for long battery life (My wife recharges her Apple watch daily but my watch lasts all week and newer models last even longer).

If you are privacy-minded, you can obviously set up your Google connect account with a burner email, but much of the workout tracking does utilize GPS. You may be able to turn that off but I haven't experimented there.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m personally of mixed opinions about Garmin.

On the one hand, I think they make the best products. Both their hardware and software as far as fitness tracking features is just brilliant. Not having any subscription is also an absolute must-have for me.

On the other hand, they operate their no-subscription business model by being extremely stingy with software updates. You might get one year of feature updates to your watch or bike computer, and maybe some critical security updates after that. But that’s about it. Apple has a mostly-undeserved reputation for planned obsolescence, but Garmin absolutely lives by that model. Sure, my Forerunner 935 isn’t going to suddenly be able to do digital payments without an NFC chip in there, but there’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to guesstimate my heat adaptation or do the same Body Battery calculations that the device from one year later is capable of using the same wrist heart rate monitor.

I’m also not sure I’d trust them on privacy too much. I trust them not to deliberately send your data to anyone malicious, or even use the data indirectly for non-customer-centric reasons. Their business model is much more like Apple than Google or Facebook in that respect. And that’s certainly a very good thing from a privacy standpoint. But I don’t think they’re a company that takes security very seriously. The rumour is that they probably had to pay the ransom when they were hit by ransomware a year or two ago, because they lacked the technical ability to restore from backups (though we don’t know for sure if that’s what happened). And with lax security comes an enhanced risk of your data being obtained by malicious actors.

[–] mr_freeze@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You may have a point about the obsolescence; my first VA4S got a stuck button about 10 months after purchase. That said, they did replace it with a new refurb for free when I reached out. Likewise, my wife's apple watch battery is getting worse and is only about 1.5 years old and her only option is to buy the latest model or pay $$$ plus enough fees that it's almost the same cost, (certainly not enough examples to generalize, but I've certainly formed my opinions from the experience).

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The problem with Garmin is that they sell hardware, and pretty much only hardware. They'll deliberately hold back newer features in software in order to entice you to buy more hardware, because that's how they get their money.

I don't particularly begrudge them that, because as mentioned, it is their only real revenue stream. But it sure would be nice if they didn't.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the guy making the 0xff grid phone knows anyone willing to make a fitbit equivalent

[–] daya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Apple Watch keeps your data local, if using iCloud the backup is E2E encrypted

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 year ago

Fittrackee. Self-hosted, open source.

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I am in the same boat with this. I prefer not to have my data tracked, especially my health performance. Currently, I have been doing it the old fashion way using pen and paper and stopping between sets to get my heart rate. It would be much more convenient to not have to, but I haven't found anything that I trust with my data.

[–] NoxiousPluK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

After a bunch of research and weighing options, I went with a Withings Scanwatch. The 30 day battery time is a nice bonus.

I second Gadgetbridge. I moved to an Amazfit GTR 2e from a Fitbit Versa, and i don't miss anything.

i believe one can't stop collection, only aggregation, so use different platforms and different emails - and critically, a device that actually meets your needs - and hope for the best. i have a garmin with an email on a domain i own. my phone is android, using a google profile that's empty of any voluntary info and tied to a gmail address used for nothing else.

it's child's play to aggregate this, but otoh, two companies will work to combine the data only if they have a common goal.