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“Polish authorities are using their powers to terrorize people instead of to protect basic rights,” said one researcher.


Polish scientists have developed lab tests that can detect if a person has taken abortion pills and are reportedly using the tests to investigate pregnancy outcomes in the country, according to a chilling article published by The New York Times last week.

Nearly three years ago, Poland’s right-wing government instituted a near-total ban on abortion. Since then, Polish officials have increasingly opened investigations into people seeking medical care for miscarriages. While Polish law does not criminalize having an abortion, the government can prosecute family, friends and health care professionals who provide or assist in abortions.

“Polish authorities’ ruthless pursuit of people trying to get or provide basic health care can only be described as a witch hunt,” Hillary Margolis, senior women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement. “The government is misusing police and courts to advance its anti-rights agenda, taking its abusive policies into private homes, hospital rooms, and doctors’ offices.”

The Polish government has forcefully repressed the reproductive rights movement in the country, violently cracking down on demonstrations, threatening activists with prison time and ordering doctors to record all pregnancies in a national database.

Beyond ramping up surveillance of people suspected of terminating their pregnancies, Polish authorities have funded the development of tests that can determine whether a person has used mifepristone and misoprostol, the drugs typically used in a medication abortion. In rare cases, these tests have been used in prosecutions.

“By going after women and girls who need medical care — and doctors who provide it — Polish authorities are using their powers to terrorize people instead of to protect basic rights,” Margolis said. “As the government ramps up its targeting and harassment of people allegedly linked to abortion, anyone can fall prey to these attempts and have their privacy, dignity, and right to health violated.”

Reproductive rights activists in the U.S. should prepare for the possibility of such technology being adapted in states with abortion bans, wrote Patrick Adams, author of the Times article.

“Testing for abortion drugs is just the latest effort by the Polish government to enforce a stringent law,” he said. “It’s a perversion of science for political ends and a possible preview of what awaits us in America’s post-Roe future.”

In response to draconian bans and restrictions on abortion access, people in both Poland and the U.S. have increasingly relied on informal networks for access to pills to self-manage abortions. Even before Roe v. Wade was overturned in the U.S., thousands of people faced criminalization for pregnancy outcomes, including self-managed abortions, according to Pregnancy Justice.

Currently, abortion pills are banned or restricted in more than two dozen U.S. states — and if U.S. lawmakers move to develop lab tests that can detect whether a person has taken abortion pills in the future, there will be dire consequences for people who live in states where abortion is criminalized. Right-wing lawmakers in the U.S. have already introduced bills that would classify abortion as homicide, and a growing number of anti-abortionists have called for the death penalty for people who have had abortions.

“The abortion rights movement has experienced incredible amounts of surveillance to date, and we’re going to see an expansion of those tools that have already existed, and more of law enforcement using often illegal means to spy on or prosecute people, without Roe,” Rafa Kidvai, director of If/When/How’s Repro Legal Defense Fund (RLDF), told Jezebel.


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[–] DieterParker@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes i feel like living in a parallel dimension, where the nazis won the war.

[–] rgb3x3 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They lost the war, but then they dispersed around the world and have been plotting revenge ever since. They're participating in a slow-burn takeover of governments instead of outright war, which they know they'd lose.

[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't need to disperse around the world. Every country had their own homebrewn flavour of Nazis. It's just that during and shortly after the war they kept quiet, because they new they would be unpopular due to the association. Now that their aren't many people left who have experienced the atrocities first hand and most people have become indifferent to the Nazis, they just started to become more public.

[–] DieterParker@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Sadly they even gain traction again in germany now. Our current far right party afd currently is all over the news as second strongest party in multiple eastern states according to public surveys.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know when the good guy in movies says "you can kill me, but you can't kill an idea!".

Well it works with assholes as well.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yey, news about Poland on lemmy!

Oh, right, I forgot it's still Poland...

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please post the news you want to see. I would love to read news from elsewhere.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The thing is most news from Poland are in Polish. It's rarely talked about in international press and when it is it's usually not good news.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Posting the site plus a Google translate link. Would be helpful.

No relationship to Poland. But in genral I'd love to see more international news posted based on the views from the nation. Rather then just what UK or US news sources think will be popular for advertising.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 1 year ago

The truth is that journalism in Poland sucks. It's mostly very biased and full of shit content. Not worth following. It's much better in Spain but I mostly follow local news. I might look for something in English worth sharing.

[–] Jables@iusearchlinux.fyi 22 points 1 year ago

Everyone involved in this is a traitor. Invest your money in something useful, Poland.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Well that's a worthwhile use of government funding... JTFC!

[–] quicken@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't get this whole push against abortion. I mean, you can be against abortion... but people seem to feel so strongly about this that they are happily willing to sacrifice doctor-patient-confidentiality, risk dead women and whatnot. I... I just don't get it. There are so many issues on this world that should trigger all the same impulses but don't get responses nearly as strong.

Be it child abuse, child soldiers, child murders, child sexual abuse, whatever.... yet, somehow living children that can really feel shit aren't as important to protect as lumps of cells that can't feel shit yet because they have about 7 brain cells none of which is working yet...

[–] artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I disagree. You can't be against abortion and we should stop normalizing it as a rational stance.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

That's a two part issue: you can be for abortion. If that should have any consequences is something else. You can he for the legalisation of murder, but murder should not be legal.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

They don't give a shit about any form of children or cells, this is about holding power over women and forcing them to become mothers.

[–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah. In the US, the same ppl that say “you can’t tell me what to do with my guns” are often the first to say “you can’t do that to your body”.

what is interesting is the anti abortion starts from a place of love, as a personal choice, and then spills quite quickly into a structure for control, a place intolerant and quite unloving.

I am not sure of the mechanisms that do this, nor why it is done.

I get having tests, in the ER that could be helpful (I imagine) but I don’t get why it is important outside of that scenario.