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Since the latest season hasn't concluded yet, let's only look at plot holes from 1990 and before.

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[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are we supposed to believe the largest most dominant military force in the world, Kublai Kahn's Mongol fleet was defeated by some inclement weather... TWICE?? Lazy writing.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The details around the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand really jump the shark. Must've been a drug-fueled writing session on that one

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When that one aired I assumed they were going to genre-shift into dark comedy or slapstick, but they... really, really didn't.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

You haven't seen Blackadder? I thought the whole plot was a set up to the series.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

one drunk dude with a pistol changing the course of the whole world?

[–] Mirodir@lemmy.fmhy.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't ignore the whole other stuff with the failed bombing etc.

From wikipedia:

At 10:10 am,[75] Franz Ferdinand's car approached and ČabrinoviΔ‡ threw his bomb. The bomb bounced off the folded back convertible cover into the street.[76] The bomb's timed detonator caused it to explode under the next car, putting that car out of action, leaving a 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m), 6.5-inch-deep (170 mm) crater,[75] and wounding 16–20 people.[77]

ČabrinoviΔ‡ swallowed his cyanide pill and jumped into the Miljacka river. ČabrinoviΔ‡'s suicide attempt failed, as the old cyanide only induced vomiting, and the Miljacka was only 13 cm deep due to the hot, dry summer.[78] Police dragged ČabrinoviΔ‡ out of the river, and he was severely beaten by the crowd before being taken into custody.

Just the mental image of him chucking himself into a river after the failed bombing and then also failing his suicide on two fronts...

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

This is why you buy the 2nd cheapest cyanide pills, not the cheapest.

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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Not at all. Things were a powder keg. If it wouldn't have blown at that point, then shortly thereafter.

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

"The War to End All Wars" was a good season finale, but then just 20 years later they made a sequel with bigger effects budget and openly evil villains. Lazy writing. And the way things have been written towards WWIII but then backing off is a long season tease.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That DB Cooper storyline was never resolved.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago

Lots of those. Characters just falling out of the narrative left and right.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The fact the Pepsi at one point had the 6th largest military in the world, and did nothing to conquer Coca-Cola.

Like, why even start that storyline if you dont take it to the inevitable conclusion?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pepsi has also made huge profits in Russia since the west started sanctions.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, they have. That's why I don't buy their products anymore.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A few Prime Ministers have been peculiar plotholes. Harold Holt just disappeared. Whitlam got taken out by a madman influenced by the yanks and nominally working for the Queen. Sometimes it seems the writers just get bored of the storyline and drop stuff.

Lol - found my fellow Aussie!

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just to emphasise:

from 1990 and before

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

Folks can't read past the headline. Truly this site has arrived.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Idk man I wasn't alive then.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago

I don't know about this series, but I play a game with the same name and absolutely hate it. It's hugely pay to win with permadeath and the grind has nowhere near the payoff for the amount of effort you put in.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody has figured out who the Zodiac killer is yet? Come on, people!

[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty sure this was wrapped up in the comics

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the stars that are older than the universe.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC, they're too big to have formed in one of the ways we know and then continuously lost matter at the the rate they should have.

So one or more of the assumptions about how they could have formed or how they lost matter over time is wrong, right?

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

Nope. Older than the universe. Can't weasel your way out of this one science boy

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Or we have the age of the universe wrong.

[–] ExplanationExtreme@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What did drugs ever do to start a war???

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the British were able to use drugs to start a war on China once. All in the name of cheap tea.

[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Some would say the fentanyl problem right now is payback for the opium thing

Because Dewey Cox never once paid for drugs.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If most people are good why doesn't the world get better without violence?

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s a saying in German that my grandmother sometimes used, it roughly translates to β€œThe person is good but the people are bad” (Der Mensch ist gut, aber die Leut sind schlecht).

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like that.

Another quote that comes to mind is this, from the movie Men in Black (1997):

A person is smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.

– Tommy Lee Jones, as Agent K

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

"Germans: so estimable in the individual, so execrable in the aggregate". -- paraphrase of Goethe

[–] Skoobie@lemmy.film 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Space Race ended without closing ceremonies.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

That happens when goal posts are moved until both sides lose interest.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

duck billed platypus

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Trump storyline is taking way too long to reach a definitive conclusion, and I’m not even confident that it will be a particularly satisfying one.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know time got weird with the pandemic, but that was not actually before 1990, believe it or not.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Ha ha ha I totally misread the title. I thought it was 1990 and beyond. Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out!

That statement was also true before 1990, though.

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

The low entropy of the past

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams πŸ˜”

Edit - too soon?

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

That's not a plot hole, even after 1990. There's no reason to melt it. Weakening is enough.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's too soon to be sure you mean it ironically. Did you?

Where all the aliens are.

Id argue the last season ended with the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, if the season started with 9/11.

[–] potato_lemon@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hard problem of consciousness

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qualia/

We experience first-person sensations (consciousness/qualia) and it's a big mystery what's up with that.

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