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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because the government classifies things when they're simply embarrassing. It doesn't need to rise to "national security threat" for the USA to feel the need to quash the ability of citizenry to talk about it. Even if it's not all that bad and simply embarrassing. They are way too cavalier about using classification powers because they don't want their dirty laundry aired.

What's left to release is probably a lot less exciting than people think.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As with a large portion of conspiracies, the conspiracy was almost certainly the cover up of incompetence

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Incompetence and conspiracy, name a more iconic duo.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

When I was younger, I believed there was a good chance that it was an inside job - the CIA, specifically. This was the only conspiracy theory I ever took seriously.

Now, my beliefs are much closer to yours.

[–] shiveyarbles 3 points 1 year ago

Or it could be some crazy ass conspiracy shit. It's all speculation til we see the goods.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or... It was aliens.

[–] Iustitia@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imma go with "his head just did that", but the feds know no one will believe them, so they're hiding the truth.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 7 points 1 year ago

Back in the 60s, the CIA experimented on real-life cheat codes. But after an incorrect use of "BALLOONHEDZ" in '63, the program was canned.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly? I think that what happened is some weird fucker who was on the radar of at least two TLA agencies was local when someone shot the president and both of those agencies immediately went "we can never let anyone found out how utterly incompetent we are, we need to cause enough smoke, dust and bullshit that even if someone reaches the right conclusion about what happened everyone else will have plenty of reason to disbelieve it." I think they executed the easiest coverup in the world because part of their goal was to make sure everyone knew there was a coverup, just not what they were covering up or on behalf of whom. Was Oswald a patsy? Maybe. If he wasn't he made a lot of really bad decisions in the moment leading up to the first shot being fired, then redeemed himself with some shooting that was so heroically accurate and well-drilled that it bordered on impossible with the gear and positioning he had. Did a bunch of people panic and start trying to ratfuck the investigation? Absolutely. Will they wait until everyone involved's great grandchildren are in the dirt before they tell us one honest word about this? Also yes.

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Waiting for everyone involved to die.

[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey. Remember when the wife of a Watergate mastermind was on a plane? And also on that plane just happened to be a network news reporter covering Watergate? And that plane crashed? And the Nixon led inquiry didn't find anything wrong?
And remember when that Watergate mastermind confessed to the Kennedy assassination on his deathbed?
Crazy coincidence, huh?

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No I remember none of that.

[–] r2vq@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you should get your memory checked out because I don't remember it either and I have a terrible memory.

[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Wikipedia article about the flight is a fascinating read. I don’t get where it says an Watergate investigating journalist was on board, but ok.

I see why it is fodder for conspiracy theorizing, but as always it’s also not the smoking gun one can make it seem to be, if one presents only a few selected factoids.