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[โ€“] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Somewhere else ๐Ÿคญ
  2. Somewhere else ๐Ÿคญ
  3. Somewhere else ๐Ÿคญ
  4. Somewhere else ๐Ÿคญ
  5. Inconvenient, I should buy air conditioning ๐Ÿ˜’
  6. Affects me directly and notably ๐Ÿ˜ก
[โ€“] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which should have been the expected response. Extremism can only ever create more extremism on the other end of the spectrum.

The only thing those street gluers achieve is the exact opposite of their goal.

[โ€“] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Murdering the civilization by knowingly and willingly create conditions for climate change: normal behaviour, good, commendable.
Public non-violent protests against that: extremism, bad, scary.

[โ€“] Tigbitties@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love civil disobedience. Go break shit.

[โ€“] marco 15 points 1 year ago

The "necessity defense" stuff: I tried all the other avenues and nothing happened, I had to turn off this oil pipeline.

[โ€“] Titan 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It's people doing things and caring that annoys me"

[โ€“] snowbell 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except they aren't actually doing anything. They should go shut down a factory or something.

[โ€“] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Diversity of tactics. There's no point in pissing on other people's praxis when you have the capacity and space to organise your own.

Want harder action? Find a pipeline. Blockade a port.

Want to educate people about actions and how to get involved? Organise a street march and equip people with rhetoric to help turn the tide against fossil fuel astroturfing.

Just do something.

They are - which means they're ahead.

[โ€“] Titan 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you been living under a rock?? They've been doing that for ages and keep getting arrested

[โ€“] snowbell 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I have been living under a rock. It is nice and cozy down here.

[โ€“] Titan 2 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] explodicle@local106.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what they've been trying for years, and we don't hear much about it because they're quietly arrested.

[โ€“] don@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

If sticking heads in sand was an Olympic sport, climate change deniers would consistently take home 100 kg antimatter trophies.

[โ€“] lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you believe there is anything you can do about this. Then you are naive. There are almost eight billion of us. We have an immense industry. People not worrying about things like that is normal. Because they are to busy feeding there children. Trying to live a little. Also why do people think that you can stop climate change. The dice has been rolled. Alea iacta est.

[โ€“] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop with the black pill nonsense. There's plenty we can do. Get active, get amongst it, break unjust laws.

Lay down and rot somewhere else.

[โ€“] lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Titan 4 points 1 year ago

No need to be offended

[โ€“] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude. The world is being killed and the people killing it have names and addresses. This is not a untouchable force of nature causing our homes to flood and burn while the ecosystems that allow us to farm collapse.

You have agency. Get angry, channel it and get active.

[โ€“] lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes they have names and adresses. They are - WE

[โ€“] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes but also wise up - we're not the same as Exxon Mobil or Rio Tinto. We individually need to make our changes, absolutely - but they won't unless we force them to do so and they dwarf us in output to an inhuman degree.

Simply - we need to stop their machines in a very literal sense. They've already shown that dialogue and scientific reasoning is an utterly useless vehicle for change in the face of their organisations - so we need to start speaking in languages they understand. Remove their ability to function. Direct action is the answer to the question.

[โ€“] intrepid@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has become fashionable for some to take a defeatist condescending stance like this when it comes to issues that affect everyone. If you think it makes you look smart, it doesn't. These are pressing issues and people have to take action. If you don't want to, go ahead and disappear. But don't talk down to those who are and those who are calling for it.

[โ€“] lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's my opinion. Has nothing to do with talking down. I genuinly don't believe there is anything we can do.