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I have this bad feeling daily that for whatever reason I loose access to my gmail. Don't think of anything shady but simply I just loose it. There is a very small chance to it but still. You can read the stories that people uploaded their family photos to google drive and the algorithm marks their kids photos CP and they loose their account. Or maybe your email is used to spam or anything similar. There is no way to talk to google support, it is an endless loop of help pages. I just can't live with this. I know billions of people do, but I cannot. My email address is registered to hundreds of websites including government and banking sites. You could literally destroy me financially or other ways by just gaining login to my gmail. Google could cause me HUGE problems by locking me out. I decided to start transitioning to an email with my own domain. I have the doimain, I have the email client setup. So what do you do with your existing stuff? Most websites dont even let you change the email. I have to take appointment in government offices to change my email. It seems like a giant task.

Have anyone took this leap?

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 51 points 1 year ago

Just a little at a time. Most sites let you change your email. As you get a message from a site move it to your other email.

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start by changing your most important services to your new email, and set your gmail to forward everything to your new email. From then, sign up to new sites with your new email and change emails of old accounts if you have time, it's not a huge rush.

As long as you set up the email forwarding, you've done most of the important work right there.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You can also auto-label anything in your new account based on From: in the header to indicate that it got forwarded from the old account. This way you will know what you still need to switch over.

[–] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I transitioned e-mail address twice. What has worked for me is doing it slowly. Keep the old address around: from time to time you'll get emails from services you did not even remember being subscribed to. Also, if you don't use a password manager, now it's the perfect time to start. I suggest Bitwaden

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I do use bitwarden as well I selfhost a bunch of stuff like nextcloud. I'm actually weirded out on myself that I'm still depending from google

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Less of a leap and more of a careful crawl. Use nee email for new services, and deactivate old accounts if possible. I have yet to selfhost email, but for hosted options proton and tutanota are better than gmail for easily. The issue with selfhosting email is that it is easy to get blacklisted iirc.

[–] float@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm thinking about this every once in a while. What about using a custom domain and a relay service like FireFox Relay or Addy.io? That would give you the option to move your actual email around easily, even after you lose access to it.

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I just did this. I have an android phone so I will have a hard time getting rid of google account but I have used clodflare to create a custom email and have setup forwarding/sending vianalias inside gmail. I made a separatr address for website registrations and personal mail. I will slowly start the transitioning of all my accounts.

[–] Myro@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I switched to Fastmail a few months ago and love it.

My tip is: Start simple.

  1. If you have any other Domains forwarded to Gmail forward them to Fastmail instead.
  2. Forward Gmail to Fastmail (i.e. add as an account including importing old mails). This won't get you off Google yet, but at least a backup and you can practically stop using Gmail.
  3. For any new registration, use Fastmail (or any of its random emails etc.)
  4. Slowly transition your old accounts.
[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Doesn't take nearly as long as you'd think if you start to slowly transition stuff to the new address.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still transitioning to gmail from my hotmail accounts....

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I know some still working on this with their AOL accounts...

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So first off, not sure if you're in a different country or something, but I live in the US, and basically every website, Government or not, has a way to easily change your email address.

I've run into one or two that I had to call to confirm, but still, it was pretty painless.

Second, gmail allows you to automatically forward your emails to a different email address. While you're going through the process of changing your primary email on different websites, set up a universal forwarding rule on gmail to send all emails to your new address.

Third, for actually transitioning your emails, sit down and write a list out of all your services that are tied to your email starting with most critical first. This would be banking, auto bill payments for utilities, car payments, credit cards, phone/internet payments, investment logins, etc.

Basically, the sites that if you lost access to or couldn't auto pay with, you would be screwed or at risk of late payments.

Getting all of those down should be pretty quick because there shouldn't be that many unless you have a ton of different loans, banks, and investment portfollios.

Getting those taken care of will take your stress down significantly. Then move on to important, but not critical, this could be your streaming services, other subscriptions like news sites or newsletters, important apps or services you pay for.

Then tier three is everything else. Stuff that doesn't really matter that much.

This is what I did and now I'm completely off Gmail/Outlook and onto Protonmail and love it.

Last thing to remember is to download anything in your email that might be important. Just force the rule to run through your whole inbox and it will forward all your old emails to your new address. This will likely take many hours to fully sync, but eventually all email records will be moved over to your new email address.

[–] Parmesan5581@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just finished this as well with Proton and SimpleLogin. Tier 1 get my actual Proton address. Tier 2 gets an alias address. Tier 3 gets closed as needed or an alias address.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] GadgeteerZA 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm been in this process for the last two months (because there are so many sites to change my e-mail address). I went with Gmail originally so I did not have to change my address everytime I changed ISPs.

So my first step was to use my own domain name so that as long as i keep renewing that annually (it's a small cost) then I keep my e-mail address (even if I change actual e-mail providers).

Next was to find an e-mail service I could point my domain to. I also needed one where I could download my e-mail to my desktop computer for archiving and reference, eg. I'm using BetterBird, but ThunderBird is another option.

So finding a mail provider is interesting as most that let you use your own domain name (custom domain name) are not free. One option was paying a small fee to by actual domain provider and use their service. I went though for ProtonMail in the end as I was already paying for their VPN service, so the difference to upgrade to the "everything" account was not that much more and scored me 500GB of online storage too (I pay separately for Bitwarden password management, otherwise that would be another plus). This allowed me to use my custom domain name (unlimited addresses), download mail through their bridge, etc.

So the real challenge really was finding a suitable mail service. I can switch easily in the future as I just point my domain name to the new mail provider, and never have to update my mail address at any sites again, and all mail is always available on my desktop computer.

I set up amazon workmail with my custom domain. Cost is $4 a month for 50GB inbox.

You can make as many aliases as you want for the same inbox.

provider is interesting as most that let you use your own domain name (custom domain name) are not free. One option was paying a small fee to by actual domain provider and use their service. I went though for ProtonMail in the end as I was already paying for their VPN service, so the difference to upgrade to the “everything” account was not that much more and scored me 500GB of online storage too (I pay separately for Bitwarden password management, otherwise that would be another plus). This allowed me to use my custom domain name (unlimited addresses), download mail through their bridge, etc.

So the real challenge really was finding a suitable mail service. I can switch easily in the future as I just point my domain name to the new mail provider, and never have to update my mail address at any sites again, and all mail is always available on my desktop computer.

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[–] Vexz@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Just change the email address for all your accounts where it's possible to change it. In your GMail settings forward all incoming emails to your new email adress.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most websites don't let you change the email? Just create a new account then.

You have to make some sacrifices to get away from having your entire identity online tied to Google. Be willing to have some downsides to get upsides.

[–] TootGuitar@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Start with one site at a time, and if a site/service doesn’t allow you to change your email without contacting them, make a note of it, and don’t worry about it for now. To begin with, focus on the sites that you can change yourself. This will give you a sense of making progress, perhaps faster than you might think.

I started switching off of gmail about 4 years ago and I’m still checking it periodically. Most of the messages I get to my gmail account these days are spam or mistaken emails due to people signing up for services and thinking that my email address is theirs (I have an early “first initial/last name” gmail address that I got in 2005). But every once in a while something legit will pop up and I make it a point to change the address.

I don’t know if I’ll ever actually close my gmail account or stop checking it, but at this point I’ve got 99%+ of the services I care about switched over to my new address, so if Google boots me, I won’t care.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some e-mail providers (like Proton for example) allow you to import your e-mails and contacts from gmail - that's a start. You probably have all your passwords saved in browser/manager so you will know where to go to update them - unfortunately I don't think there's an automated way to do it, but it probably seems like more hassle than it actually is. I'd also search your mailbox for keywords like "welcome" or "account" to see if there are any other services you forgot you signed up for and haven't saved the password in browser/manager.

After all is migrated and updated, you would probably want to delete your google account but I wouldn't do that right away, just to give yourself some extra time in case you forgot about something. Log out of all google services and stop using them. Set a reminder for 1 year from now to delete the account.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I frequently encounter people asking about moving from Gmail but I never understand, please help me understand if I'm wrong. Doesn't Gmail still let you forward emails to a 3rd party address? In which case just sign up for another email service and you're done. Email is a standard, not a service. I've changed email addresses probably about as many times as years I've been alive, it's probably the least likely service I could think of that you could be tied in to. Am I missing something huge here?

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multiple concerns: it will only forward emails as long as the acvount is alive. Google recently annoinced it will close accounts that are inactive for certain time so if you stop using it and just use it for forwarding you are risking to lose the mail. As well there is the privacy concern that google reads every email of yours and by forwarding you are not really solving that concern

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well yes, you move the accounts across to your new provider when you come across them or sign up for new ones (I presumed the problem was that you had so many accounts that you'd forgotten them, and for some reason you needed some legacy information from them). If a few inactive accounts die then no big deal surely, you sign up for new ones?

[–] s3rvant@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yes; this.

I personally went with Proton Mail which even has an easy way to import your existing Gmail emails into your new Proton Mail account so they're still all in one place.

[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Currently in transition. I have about 300ish accounts to change the email handles but i set myself a goal of at least 10 a day, more if I feel like it. Its a journey not a race take your time. In the mean time though you should be backing up anything important off of your account if you havent already like contacts, photos, files and messages. That should help with your nerves, at least it did with me.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I started by having my gmail forward to an alias email that goes to a newer more privacy focused email.

From there I would just update account when I got an email from them or the next time I used an account. It is slower then just going through all your accounts on your password manager, but its less daunting and typically the accounts you use the most are going to get updated quickly anyway.

At this point my gmail functions as a "professional sounding" alias for when I am not going to bust out my phone to create an alias for something I am doing in person.

As for something like gdrive, best practice is to have more then one backup, and encrypt what you put on cloud servers to avoid any scanning issues.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have my Gmail since beta invites so over 20 years. I'm dying with that account it's basically my Internet SSN at this point. It's also my real name so it's professional n shit. The idea of moving it would be a disaster.

[–] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

This is a fight you need to have. I know is an inconvenience but small steps like buy a domain and start using with new services or people is a way to start

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm more afraid of what would happen if I loose mine. You cannot even contact google for help. I'm not owning my email. You are not owning your email.

[–] handvat@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

In addition to the other advice given in this thread, set an autoreply in your gmail that telld you that you have switched email addresses and include your new address. This way, people know of your new email address if someone still manages to mail you on your old email address.

[–] LinusWorks4Mo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

did it years ago. created several new email addresses for different purposes with one main new personal one. I set up a forwarding to that main address from Google while I transitioned online accounts to the new email addresses. now I use Google only for YouTube and my phone but the Google mailbox is pretty much defunct, occasionally I get an email but that is still being forwarded to my new main one