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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Sneerquence Classic: "Shut up and do the impossible!" (ironic in hindsight given the doomerism) (www.lesswrong.com)
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This is a classic sequence post: (mis)appropriated Japanese phrases and cultural concepts, references to the AI box experiment, and links to other sequence posts. It is also especially ironic given Eliezer's recent switch to doomerism with his new phrases of "shut it all down" and "AI alignment is too hard" and "we're all going to die".

Indeed, with developments in NN interpretability and a use case of making LLM not racist or otherwise horrible, it seems to me like their is finally actually tractable work to be done (that is at least vaguely related to AI alignment)... which is probably why Eliezer is declaring defeat and switching to the podcast circuit.

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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The linked post exemplifies the virtue of hazukashii, truly itai school hakushin-class yabai-style writing. In Japan they don't say "Rationalism" they say "クリンジ" and I think that's beautiful.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

HPMOR aka ハリポッターとクリンジのじゅつ

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Such pointless orientalism, unbearable levels of cringe.

[–] BernieDoesIt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Doing real work is hard. Making things up is so much simpler.

[–] vashti@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ, I clicked on this just to see the crimes against the Japanese language (since I'm always keeping an eye out for my own), thinking huh, maybe I can learn something here—

The virtue of tsuyoku naritai, "I want to become stronger", is to always keep improving

get the fuck out yud

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did I win? Why yes, I did.

(dead link)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing that one can use so many words to describe such a simple concept. Astonishing lack of economy. I am not going to read or even skim that, I just thought it was funny that he was like 'I won, see?' and his proof is a dead link.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

"baffle them with bullshit"

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's amazing that one can use so many words to describe such a simple concept. Astonishing lack of economy. I am not going to read or even skim that, I just thought it was funny that he was like 'I won, see?' and his proof is a dead link.