Fascist shutdown of public discourse, step by step:
- Find out where public discourse is.
- Post child porn on an obscure corner of it.
- Take screenshots of the posted porn.
- Send law enforcement to seize all the things.
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2023
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They are a dumbass if they do this cause they will get prosecuted themselves for posting that. There's a safe harbor provision for server admins so long as they make a good faith effort to report when it is brought to their attention (at least in the US). So long as you are doing your due diligence as a web host, you should be fine.
I'm talking about when the government wants an excuse for shutting down public discourse. Obviously it isn't going to prosecute itself.
They have much less roundabout ways of shutting things down if they really want to.
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imo it’s more likely that some agitator dickweed would do that than a government. Both are conceivable, though.
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Ah yes, it was all a false flag, instigated by the government to take away our freedoms, I get it
Also screenshots of csam would count as csam right
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I mean, we could technically block images and still have discussion of politics.
Or we could use image hosting like imgur and allow the link as a text, but block the actual image or thumbnail from being cached and blocked from being embedded to the webpage.
Yeah, I think until a solution is found image hosting should be blocked, and instead rely on external image hosting sites. That seems like the best immediate solution.
We need much better moderation tools. List of uploaded content, list of cached content, option to purge cached content.
Hopefully a push towards forcing the lemmy devs hands on that end will come from this.
Seems like this kind of insight tool could be created by the community separately.
Federation lovers find out all the work that goes behind curtains in any modern website that hosts user generated content.
To all the people who like to talk smack to Jitsi for requiring Google login, lemmy.world for banning piracy communities, or to even to YT for honouring takedown requests: go ahead and try to host just 100 people on your site.
IANAL, but you are still responsible for it if you host it on a cloud server, the difference is mainly that the authorities will complain first with your cloud host, which will likely take down the entire site, instead of with you directly who can swiftly remove the offending material if asked to do so.
It is FUD to say the police will SWAT you if someone reports CSAM on your server. But you should have an easy way for the responsible agencies to contact you for take-down requests.
For people hosting in the EU, this pdf document explains the legal situation a bit and also where and how to report CSAM, should you come across it.
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I know, and I just saw this after the meme about people hosting instances taking risks for others...
I was contemplating setting up an instance dedicated to micromobility, active transport and livable cities... but this is a BIG turn off - I don't think it's worth spinning up a new instance until the new mod tools land, and the ability to disable caching federated thumbnails
There are some instances using ML to scan their pictrs folder IIRC, could be good if it could quarantine/delete/purge posts from Lemmy
Hey, that sounds very interesting. Hope you can do it in the future, I'll definitely join. :)
Ngl this might be it for my instance, not dealing with all this.
I had to clean a child porn image once because some bastard registered at an instance I'm moderating and posted an anime child porn image to another instance using the account he created here. And I found a total of 5 copies of that image in the server...
Site is back up after being rehosted off-site!
Indeed, that's great!