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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean this is a relatively easy question to answer. God is a cruel dictator. It doesn't really speak to if God can do those things, or if God is real. Only to God's character.

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Old Testament God is clearly a harsh parent that will ask you to do inconsiderable things to prove your loyalty, and will just destroy whatever doesn’t fit his vision. He is not the good guy, nor the bad guy I guess. There’s no Hell or Satan in OT, right?

Anyway, I can only imagine a teenage having a fit that his terrarium’s humans aren’t behaving like he want them to, then growing out of his tantrums within a few years.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, Satan appears as the snake in Genesis, goes up to God and cons him into a bet that Job will disavow God if everything is ripped away and God goes along with it. Hell, I believe is referenced a few times as Sheol. In the NT, Hades appears as well as the lake of fire and the place where there's gnawing and nashing of teeth.

God does open up the earth and swallow nonbelievers in the OT, along with a bunch of other cruel shit, but I don't recall a place of eternal torment in the OT.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe there is any part that says the serpent is supposed to be Satan

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago

Oh that's right. It's in Revelation (new testament) that describes Satan as the serpent of old, relating back to Genesis.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if there was a god, then humans would be to him as lab rats to humans - except with more power and a greater degree of control.

If humans starve, torture, maim, infect, lobotomise, test bioweapons on the lab rats that they have near-godlike power over; then why expect elsewise from their god.

did you ever watch humans playing grand theft auto?

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[–] shiveyarbles 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's a god we're too insignificant for him to notice us.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's a god he made the entire universe and probably has a much nicer planet somewhere with humans v23947489 that he much prefers over us, and spends most of his time over there.

[–] ultrasquid@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

That's basically the lore of the game Ultrakill

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be a hand out, which is socialism. You wouldn’t want god to be a filthy socialist now, would you? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

[–] marco 1 points 1 year ago

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.

"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The demiurge hates us. That’s why.

God is the Universe, and he loves us. He does provide, but he isn’t a being or person, he doesn’t act like that.

Everything that happens is just part of his dream.

[–] bermuda 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well yeah shit do be crazy around these parts (aka the universe).

[–] argv_minus_one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem: evolution wouldn't work if He did that.

Problem: if our experiments with AI are any clue, evolution is the only way to create intelligent life.

Problem: without intelligent life, the existence of the universe, and perhaps the existence of God Himself, would be pointless.

[–] Aagje_D_Vogel@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes. Religion. The answer to nothing.