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Canada is great at high-speed rail studies β€” but not at actually building high-speed rail. So why is it the only country in the developed world considering a new conventional-speed passenger network?

Created by Paige Saunders with special guest Reece Martin

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[–] Sir_Osis_of_Liver@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Speed costs, how fast can you afford to go?" Doesn't matter if it's cars, motorcycles, trains or sailboats. It's not a linear increase either.

Having said that, what I'd love to see is all fixed rail infrastructure turned over to a non-profit corporation. Private or public rail companies with the rolling stock would pay fees to run trains on given schedules controlled by the infrastructure company, with priority given to passenger trains. The fees would be enough to cover the costs of rail maintenance and expansion.

With railways open to anyone with rolling stock, competition is increased. Exclusive routes would be eliminated, which would help reduce freight rates.

Over time, separate passenger rail lines would be developed, at least partially subsidized by fees on the freight companies, as passenger rail typically has very thin margins.

separate passenger rail lines would be developed,

This is key. I used to work for one of the major railroad companies, and passenger trains are an afterthought. There are so many freight trains traveling that there isn't time for anything else. There was barely time for us to get on the track to do maintenance.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you a regular Paige Saunders viewer? That's exactly what he proposed in another one of his videos!

Nope, haven't seen it. I will now though.
I have a soft spot for trains in general. Dad (marketing director) and my grandfather (sales agent) worked for railways. Some of my ideas come from them.

They talked me out of following suit. It's a pretty tough business these days.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Presently42@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

No ifs ands or buts: nationalise it!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I do think it's worth proposing a high speed railway line. If we're going to spend 25 years to build it anyway, might as well make it a more competitive option than air travel or car. Air travel can't go much faster than how it is without making it way unreasonably expensive to operate. The cost to operate is more for High speed rail but not as much, it is more in the initial investment.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Canada doesn't want to end up with "high-speed rail" like the Northeast Corridor, so it's prioritizing HFR to begin with...

We should probably start planning out an HSR right of way, but I'm not against expanding our conventional network in lieu of burning money on shit trains that run on shit tracks below conventional speeds for most of the trip anyway.

God the Northeast Corridor sucks and the fact that Amtrak is willing to call it HSR is a disgrace.