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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Happy birthday 🎊🎉 GNU/Linux.

Today GNU/Linux is 32 years old.

It was thankfully released to the public on August 25th, 1991 by Linus Torvalds when he was only 21 years old student.

What a lovely journey 🤍

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[–] ipacialsection@startrek.website 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, Linux is 32 years old; GNU goes back to 1984, and Unix all the way back to 1970! The history of this OS is much older than Linus Torvalds's involvement; he "only" created and maintains the most popular kernel.

But yes, happy birthday to Linux. Many thousands have contributed to making this operating system what it is today and they all have my utmost thanks for it.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

My brain gets numb when I start thinking about all the branches that have come from Unix... and the branches from those branches and so on.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure unix will be created in the year 3.843063914 E+5636(1970!)

How would anything even survive 3.843063914 E+5636 years after the end of the universe to make unix

[–] Deebster@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

They misspoke: Hurd will be usable in year 1970!

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way Linux is 32! I remember when it first came out and it was just...oh.

Don't mind me, I'll just be here yelling at the cloud.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 year ago

Sigh, my condolences. I’m shouting right beside you. I first learned about linux in 1993 in college. I got it working on a shiny new 486 with super vga graphics. We were allowed access to the college’s aix mainframes and thus the internet via a slip connection - but only through Unix like systems. Linux was amazing, I couldn’t believe we had x going, and loading up cad, matlab, maple, ftp, fsp, irc, nettrek, and everything else possible in the computer centers - but over a telephone line from our apartment.

Magical.

Funny how it really only became my daily driver three ish years ago - despite using it forever. Cuz games - glad that’s changed finally.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If we are marking the birth of Linux and trying to call it GNU / Linux, we should remember our history.

Linux was not created with the intention of being part of the GNU project. In this very announcement, it says “not big and professional like GNU”. Taking away the adjectives, the important bit is “not GNU”. Parts of GNU turned out to be “big and professional”. Look at who contributes to GCC and Glibc for example. I would argue that the GNU kernel ( HURD ) is essentially a hobby project though ( not very “professional” ). The rest of GNU never really not that “big” either. My Linux distro offers me something like 80,000 packages and only a few hundred of them are associated with the GNU project.

What I wanted to point out here though is the license. Today, the Linux kernel is distributed via the GPL. This is the Free Software Foundation’s ( FSF ) General Public License—arguably the most important copyleft software license. Linux did not start out GPL though.

In fact, the early goals of the FSF and Linus were not totally aligned.

The FSF started the GNU project to create a POSIX system that provides Richard Stallman’s four freedoms and the GPL was conceived to enforce this. The “free” in FSF stands for freedom. In the early days, GNU was not free as in money as Richard Stallman did not care about that. Richard Stallman made money for the FSF by charging for distribution of GNU on tapes.

While Linus Torvalds as always been a proponent of Open Source, he has not always been a great advocate of “free software” in the FSF sense. The reason that Linus wrote Linux is because MINIX ( and UNIX of course ) cost money. When he says “free” in this announcement, he means money. When he started shipping Linux, he did not use the GPL. Perhaps the most important provision of the original Linux license was that you could NOT charge money for it. So we can see that Linus and RMS ( Richard Stallman ) had different goals.

In the early days, a “working” Linux system was certainly Linux + GNU ( see my reply elsewhere ). As there was no other “free” ( legally unencumbered ) UNIX-a-like, Linux became popular quickly. People started handing out Linux CDs at conferences and in universities ( this was pre-WWW remember ). The Linux license meant that you could not charge for these though and, back then, distributing CDs was not cheap. So being an enthusiastic Linux promoter was a financial commitment ( the opposite of “free” ).

People complained to Linus about this. Imposing financial hardship was the opposite of what he was trying to do. So, to resolve the situation, Linus switched the Linux kernel license to GPL.

The Linux kernel uses a modified GPL though. It is one that makes it more “open” ( as in Open Source ) but less “free” ( as in RMS / FSF ).

Switching to the GPL was certainly a great move for Linux. It exploded in popularity. When the web become a thing in the mid-90’s, Linux grew like wild fire and it dragged parts of the GNU project into the limelight wit it.

As a footnote, when Linus sent this announcement that he was working on Linux, BSD was already a thing. BSD was popular in academia and a version for the 386 ( the hardware Linus had ) had just been created. As BSD was more mature and more advanced, arguably it should have been BSD and not Linux that took over the world. BSD was free both in terms or money and freedom. It used the BSD license of course which is either more or less free than the GPL depending on which freedoms you value. Sadly, AT&T sued Berkeley ( the B in BSD ) to stop the “free”‘ distribution of BSD. Linux emerged as an alternative to BSD right at the moment that BSD was seen as legally risky. Soon, Linux was reaching audiences that had never heard of BSD. By the time the BSD lawsuit was settled, Linux was well on its way and had the momentum. BSD is still with us ( most purely as FreeBSD ) but it never caught up in terms of community size and / or commercial involvement.

If not for that AT&T lawsuit, there may have never been a Linux as we know it now and GNU would probably be much less popular as well.

Ironically, at the time that Linus wrote this announcement, BSD required GCC as well. Modern FreeBSD uses Clang / LLVM instead but this did not come around until many, many years later. The GNU project deserves its place in history and not just on Linux.

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[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Linus that was promised.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s a shame. Linus was and is far more deserving of respect for his contributions to technology than Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Probably even Woz. But he’s by far down the line in terms of fame and fortune. Except maybe Woz.

[–] admin@leemyalone.org 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watch some of the interviews in his home office. Dude is a happy dad with a nice family. Meanwhile a lot of tech billionaires are miserable. I'd say the respect he's earned by not selling out is worth more than mainstream success. Linux and Linus are just the right size.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair point. Out of all the tech legends, Linus (and Woz) seem the happiest.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a feeling he's more okay with having less fortune though. Just the impression I get about him.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can't imagine he's struggling for money, he's a smart guy and wrote an OS used in some capacity by so many corporations

He's probably written books that sell quite well

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

"He oversees and has final say over every line of code [of Linux] to this day. The Linux Foundation pays Linus around $1.5 million per year to support the software."

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/linus-torvalds-net-worth/

He has an estimated net worth of $150 million.

https://www.linuxfordevices.com/tutorials/linux/linus-torvalds-net-worth

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sniffle They grow up so fast!

Posted via android.

[–] DrownedAxolotl@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's as if it was only yesterday that I watched him flip nvidia off.

Posted via arch.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

He should do it again

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Linus was so nice back then...

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Quoting from memory: "Remember the times when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?"

[–] EponymousBosh 23 points 1 year ago

"Just a hobby"--famous last words

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are AT-harddisks? Google is not helpful.

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aka PATA or IDE hard disks. Basically consumer grade kit.

The statement that the kernel would only ever handle IDE was basically a confession that this would never be a product suitable for enterprise or professional use where SCSI was the typical interface.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, it's actually not suitable for professional use. That'd be an understatement, it's damn perfect for literally everything!

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

except running solidworks 🥲

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[–] PlasticExistence 5 points 1 year ago

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

IDK about anyone else, but I first heard this story in the form of a song, and I still enjoy listening to it.

https://youtu.be/oHNKTlz1lps

[–] tokyo@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

This is an interesting piece of history that I have never seen. Thanks for sharing

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did stallman coat-tail Linux on day one, or did he latch onto the "ackshually, it's got some gun in there so we deserve top billing" only a little after?

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, its because Linus Torvalds doesn't consider libre software to be important. Torvalds sucks when it comes to free software.

GNU Hurd is an incredibly important project because there can't be just one "free software kernel."

Richard Stallman doesn't care about popularity. He already changed the world. What he does care about is people forgetting their commitment to freedom.

He doesn't give a shit if people say Linux, he does give a shit if people are "marketing" Linux without an emphasis on freedom.

Something that many have failed in.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

I thought it was funny that at one point he said "It's not like I want to call it Stallmanix!"

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux doesn't have any GNU in it. Linux is a kernel that GNU runs on top of. That's what Stallman means by "GNU/Linux."

Maybe he is a little bitter about his life's work and philosophy being erased by Linux fans, but that is understandable. Maybe he is a little too bitter.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

People think it's about Stallman being bitter. But it's because GNU is a political project with the goal of total user freedom and control over their computer. The software is a step on the way there. But if people use free software without understanding, valuing or taking advantage of the freedom it gives them, the GNU project has failed.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Probably after he gave up on his own kernel (Hurd) being a viable competitor.

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[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

happy birthday you bloody penguin <3

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aksdb@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] vashti@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like only yesterday I was co-admining my first public server in 1996.

Fun times.

[–] NaoPb 6 points 1 year ago

Good on you. I was still watching cartoons in 1996. To be fair I matured very late (if ever).

[–] Grey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That makes Linux a Leo. Someone who cares about that tell me what that means

[–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Means it has positive polarity, fixed modality, and fire triplicity. Don't you know nothing?

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

might as well be any Pokemon

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[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I whish I was 32 happy birthday

[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read in "The Cathedral and The Bazaar" that Linux was not that revolutionary (it reused code and ideas from Mimix) but the collaboration of the entire talent pool from the Internet to develop the kernel is. Massively respect for Linus.

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