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There obviously more work to be done and I love that Chicago is so far ahead of so many cities when it comes to bicycle infrastructure.

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[–] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this the same Chicago that sold all their parking meters to Wall Street making infrastructure changes really difficult because it would cut into parking meter profits?

Story at the end of this great 99pi

[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah and I kind of love it anyway. Since the sale, meter pricing has sky rocketed which discourages driving. Fuck cars!!

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Discouraging driving is good but when a city can't close or repurpose roads because of a parking meter contract, it kind of sucks.

[–] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I was thinking that might be a thing. Actually kind of poetic. Love it.

[–] feduser934@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

That's probably why it's so expensive. I guess it's good to know that the loss of revenue is already baked into the cost of the project.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok that's great but that's a weird reason to build bike lanes.

[–] Erismi14@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Chicago has a long history of segregation in the city. It's worse than a lot of cities in the US. POC are leaving the city in droves because the city hasn't well addressed the issues of the past. While I think wording it for pedestrian safety makes a lot of sense, this also makes sense in the context of Chicago

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

While transit equity is valid, I would prefer if the answers to racism and inequitality was "reparations and the dismantlement of racial hierarchies."

[–] roo@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

I live in small city where the exact opposite applies. The cycleways don't extend through richer neighbourhoods. The poorer neighbourhoods are plastered with cycleways. But there's lots of NIMBY people here.

[–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm thinking that unless they also add a program to give low income Chicagoans bicycles, we're going to see a crime wave. Just sayin'

[–] feduser934@vlemmy.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article says they did:

Earlier in the pandemic, Chicago launched a program to give away 5,000 bikes to eligible Chicago residents by 2026.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

besides that working bikes and other groups and organizations give access to affordable bikes.and of course chicago already has miles of bike lanes of all kinds to this just makes it that much better.

[–] Packopus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@feduser934 They should have VINs just like motorcycles or chips built in because those free bikes are going in to someones van every night.

@lntl @KeavesSharpi

[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

From my POV, as long as they're ridden by anybody then the program was a success

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

They should require all bikes be registered with https://project529.com/garage with the cops checking often, it is the best way to solve the problem. Not a perfect solution, but the best chance

[–] hihusio@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why? why would added bicycle infrastructure = crime wave?

More people buying used bikes to ride in the new lanes presumably.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of charities that can do that, if needed because really bikes are cheap on the grand scheme of transportation options. Only the government can add bike lanes, that's what they need to focus on.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice I can get shot on a bike now!

[–] feduser934@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The concept of Chicago being super dangerous is a incorrect right wing meme.

It has half the violent crime rate of Memphis, for example. And that violence is highly concentrated in particular neighborhoods.

[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

100%

Chicago is dope