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[–] StimpyMGS@feddit.nl 127 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 105 points 1 year ago

conservatives made a whole smear campaign against her to try and silence her and demoralize her, and she's only stood up even more for it. Can't say she's done nothing if they're trying so hard to discredit her

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's gotten the issue of climate change to be a major issue with young voters

It's really not her fault that the people in power have a vested interest in ignoring climate change.

Also she got Andrew Tate arrested so there's that.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How to you figure the people in power have a vested interest in ignoring climate change? Seems like everyone has a vested interest in acknowledging any risk to our civilization.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Because they get a lot of money from fossil fuel companies.

And the others are just ignoring climate change to "own the libs".

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

They haven't shown much interest in practice.

Actions, not words.

[–] Schneemensch@programming.dev 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speaking from a German perspective I feel like the Fridays for future movement has significantly affected (parts of) her generation. I have many colleagues whose kids are focusing on a diet with less environmental impact and also asking their parents to change.

It is impressive that it has been such a long running and wide spreading movement and I am sure that there will be many politicians, activists and entrepreneurs coming out of this movement in the future.

It is hard to expect anything more from a child who has been belittled constantly. I wish I would be standing up for my believes as strongly as she does.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Thunberg’s style is her best asset. She keeps making a simple point, without trying to complexify it. When people try to complexify it, she brings them back to the simple point:

  • this is a major problem
  • it will lead to death and destruction if not addressed
  • we have a tendency to ignore it that needs to be counteracted

She uses the simplest possible language and stays on point. Which for some odd reason nobody else seems to be capable of.

Some will say she’s just a “cheerleader” but that’s kind of what we need if we’re going to address this. Political will is the constraining factor in our climate change response.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your parents were multimillionaires and hired publicists and boat crews and built a brand around those beliefs, I'm sure you would have too.

[–] circularkaratechop@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

A lot of rich kids just become spoiled and rich. What Greta did was special.

[–] Schneemensch@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I think if my parents were multimillionaires I would be even more busy enjoying my life than fighting a fight with uneven odds.

Of course coming from a stable background makes it easier to be an activist, but it is still far from easy to devote your life to one cause.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What she (and other climate activists) have done and do is spread awareness about this issue. As you can imagine, it's important to keep important topics (arguably even the most important topic humanity faces, yes even more important than soccer (lol)) present in media and in people's heads for them to not be forgotten soon after again. People need to be constantly reminded that our current way of life currently destroys our planet, especially considering that not much happened to steer against this problem within the last couple of years after the Paris agreement. And we don't even know many of the tipping points that could accelerate disaster even further. When some ecosystems stop existing and food chains become disrupted, for example.

In a way, she's like a PR person for the most important topic in science currently. And she (and other climate actrivists) is successful at it, considering it's so often in the news and so many of the polluters hate her and try to discredit her and others.

Always remember though: it's about the problem, not specific people. Of course we like talking about people, and the media does it as well, but as the saying goes, "small minds discuss people, great minds discuss ideas". It's about the problem at hand, irrelevant of Greta or other activists. She's just trying to bring the point across to a mass audience, that's all. We (as in: the whole humanity, no exceptions) need to take action against the problem, not talk about Greta. This "ad hominem" strategy is sometimes deliberately used as a distraction away from the issue at hand. When articles talk about Greta or try to discredit her or whatever, then the debate is shifted away from the actual problem at hand. Even articles about her in a positive light are, in the end, irrelevant. It's not about her, or other climate activists. She even says that herself. If the activists didn't exist, we'd still face the exact same problem.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

What have you achieved in try e past 5 years?

[–] steakmeout@aussie.zone 27 points 1 year ago

OK now ask what word leaders and companies that hold power have actually achieved so far in the same period.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Five years later this is a relevant question. So her awareness campaign is at least as effective as Susan G. Komen.

[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

You need to think more long term, next generation level. Because of her and others, kids will be born and raised with the mindset that the planet needs saving.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hopefully Greta's legacy is more then just a non-profit that steals from desperate cancer patients but given the genesis of her brand, I doubt it.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago

It's been five whole years and this teenager hasn't defeated all of global capitalism, what's she even doing?

[–] Smoltech@lemmyunchained.net 7 points 1 year ago

She opened my eyes to something that should have been obvious.

Eternal economic growth is a fairy tale that's killing us.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 1 year ago

What did you achieve since 2018?

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

There's been a bunch of decent memes.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She has achieved nothing because we're so far past words on these issues.

Most humans must die.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I think its true that we must reduce the population before earth does it for us. But theres no way anyone (in a significant amount) would agree to do it by willingly die (or having people they know die) for it.

So we're left with birth control. Which we never gonna be able to do globally because so many think of birth rate as a way to win a culture war.