some people say the party divide in the US is based on gender. which may be true to some degree but really I think the true divide is intelligence
republicans have literally just become the stupid party
(source: my ass)
some people say the party divide in the US is based on gender. which may be true to some degree but really I think the true divide is intelligence
republicans have literally just become the stupid party
(source: my ass)
This isn't just stupid. Anyone over 20 remembers that it wasn't this hot for this long. This requires that they tell themselves that the heat is for some natural reason.
Probably could have added :
Source: Fox News
A sizable portion of the population would convince themselves that the sky is green, if that was their party's official position.
And a sizable portion of politicians, of a certain moral character, would take the official position that the sky is green if someone paid them enough.
On an unrelated note, I wonder which party is heavily sponsored by the oil and gas industry?
Well, science doesn't care about their opinions.
Elections do care about their opinions, and elections have consequences. Very serious consequences.
GOP's good at brainwashing stupid and / or dysfunctional people. It's also good at attracting one issue voters who only care about guns, abortion, immigration, low taxes, etc.
Many people (if not most) are not that smart or caring. If you give them the one thing they want, they'll support you. Many people (if not most) are also bigots, and hate one group or another and you won't get them to change their minds by any means.
Republicans know this (they have psychological and media experts on their team who are smart, unlike their voting base) and use their knowledge to manipulate people with lies, and it works, just due to how human nature is.
Democrats also know this, which is why they don't seriously fight Republicans by compromising on some of their principles or also pandering just enough to get elected in purple / weak red areas. It's honestly just a power sharing agreement to keep things split 50 / 50 so the corpo donors can get what they want done while the average person gets distracted by the very public binary fight these 2 "parties" are always engaging in.
The only real answer is ranked choice voting and the formation of 2 additional parties. One that's fiscally and environmentally liberal and socially conservative, and another that's socially liberal, but fiscally liberal, and hopefully environmentally at least moderate.
People forget that most places on the internet are left-leaning or flat out liberal bubbles. Especially FOSS communities like Lemmy / Kbin. If you go out and engage people in real life, it's easy to quickly realize that people will keep voting in climate denying, polluting jackasses so they can keep their guns, or make sure abortion's illegal, etc.
Our best hope is young GOP voters who believe in climate change and want to do something about it, because they're growing up in this world, and will have to live in it too. Hopefully that Hawaii fire made even the rich realize that shit like that could happen to them during their vacation, and it'll make them give a shit. Anyhow, our best bet is to try to make deals with the next generation of Republicans, and also introduce ranked choice voting which can create parties and coalitions built around compromise and getting things done as opposed to ideological purity tests, which keep losing us the house and / or senate, even if we win the presidency.
And when you watched the clown beat the defenseless mime to death you saw it laugh. Then, the clown called the mimes mom's dirty names, waved a hitler flag and shot the mime. Afterwards calling him a removed and gesturing for his widow to call him later. He then slapped you in the face with a rubber circus dink, called you Ugly Stan and you called him by his first name asking for another.
After all of that, what do you think caused the clown to do such a terrible thing?
GoOp: "I don't think it was the clown."
I'd like to point out that this gets weirder when you realize that logically, they'd only ask someone if oil and gas companies are responsible for climate change if the individual previously answered "yes" or "don't know" to the question, "is global warming occuring".
That would imply that anyone in the black on those bars either lied at some point, selected the wrong answer by mistake, or straight up didn't understand the first question...
Spooky
The first question asked about "global warming", the 2nd uses the phrase "climate change", and a significant percentage of the population -- and particularly Republican voters -- is made up of raging morons and brainwashed suckers.
Would you rather conform and be right, or think independently and be wrong?
"The majority is always wrong. Me smart for thinking different 🤓"
It's not even thinking independently though. It's conforming to the group with the wrong opinion.
1000 flies eat shit. 1000 flies can't be wrong.
Be right, regardless of whether or not it's conforming to anything.
nore worried about the fact that of those that answered that global warming isn't occurring, only 50% still think that it doesn't exist in a different question. did the other 50% just suddenly reconsider?
The other 50% believe in global cooling.
They mainly blame it on the sun or they just see it as "natural warming" just the way ice ages have existed.
For example: here's one of Germany's leading right wing populists (and inbred nazi descendant wannabe noble) Beatrix von Storch saying: "Well maybe we need to tell the sun to shine less!" when being asked about how to tackle climate change.
So these people have a choice: they can accept their way of living is a reason for the current catastrophe. They need to stop enjoying cars, that schnitzel mit bratkartoffeln and start building those wind plants also to the south.
Or they can start blaming the refugees and the women with tattoos.
+ stop accepting bribe money from fossil fuels companies (or at least use their bribe money to build up wind & solar)
The sad reality is that they allowed dismantling functioning windmills (which RWE is definitely going to rebuild somewhere else *wink *wink) to expand the Garzweiler lignite pit (with lignite being literally the worst type of coal to burn)...
Those are just excuses they come up with on the spot because they feel correctly they are being put on the spot when asked about it. All human actions are about avoiding negative social consequences and that's what they're actually worried about.
That they think they need to justify themselves offers at least some hope, however.
I really think it's ironic that we are risking the destruction of systems that have been stable for hundreds (or even thousands) of years just to save a system that isn't even stable enough to handle an Elon Musk tweet
I’ve known a guy for like 20 years, currently in his 60s, who firmly believes that anthropogenic climate change is entirely false.
He has a bachelors degree in physics, a bachelors degree in mathematics, and a Ph.D in economics. He’s written a handful of high level Econ textbooks, he’s worked as a professor off and on at 3 or 4 respected universities here in the US. He was most recently employed at a supply chain consulting firm, making an ungodly amount of money.
By all accounts, he’s an extremely smart, well-educated, well-read guy. But holy shit if that boomer isn’t constantly reposting the most transparently fake anti-science nonsense on his Facebook page. Think, “New research proves that Climate Change is a liberal myth” - The Religious Conservative Storm.
Just demonstrates how it doesn’t matter how educated someone is if they don’t think critically about information that confirms their expectations.
There be people like that. My dad was a professor for applied mathematics at a top level university in Germany, published books etc. Nowadays he works as an indepentdent business consultants and is insanely successful on an international level. And while he does believe climate change is real he is very, uhm, alternative when it comes to health and nutrition. Think fruit juices and nutrition supplements and sun doesn't cause cancer and "holding a lazer to your heel makes your rotten teeth unrotten" kinda stuff. (Didn't work.) Watches weird ass youtube videos by "experts". Me, having a M.Sc. in Nutrition and Biomedicine, I am in no way an expert like these people or himself when it comes to nutrition, health and medicine, according to him. People can be extremely smart and talented in some parts of their lives and be completely bonkers in others.
Yeah sounds very similar. And weird coincidence, but the guy I’m talking about is also German. Lives in the US now, but his parents don’t speak English, he came here as a kid I believe.
My dad isn't German but he only became obsessed with alt health and nutrition once he moved to Germany... Coincidence? I think not - there must be something in the air here that turns people crazy
How weird. My sample size is now 2, I think I’m ready to draw a conclusion and only consider evidence that confirms it going forward.
That reminds me how my father loves to tell the story of a doctor who wasn't convinced that sun causes skin cancer so he went to India for a year and didn't wear sunscreen once and lo and behold he didn't get cancer so he disproved that sun causes cancer.
Again, my dad is a mathematician. Granted, analytical and computer algebra, not statistics, but dear Lord.
I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world, and I don't believe climate change is a problem. And I'm also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I've seen enough). I'm just saying this so that you don't stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.
You don't believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven't read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.
Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.
I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world, and I don’t believe climate change is a problem
My brother in Christ, you could have stopped here. Your post doesn't even make an effort to support your argument (no papers, no evidence), you're only spewing bullshit like you're better than some people on the internet. Be better.
I have a second question you say there are people who have read 100x more than us. Where is their work? Everything I can find says the climate change is real and it's human caused.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/climate-change-global-warming-faq.html
https://globalchange.mit.edu/publication/18043
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/what-is-climate-change
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-to-believe-in-antarctica-rsquo-s-great-ice-debate/
https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2019/06/SR15_Full_Report_High_Res.pdf
(X) Doubt
Since about 1980 experts warn about climate change.
source: my ass
You're all responsible. Filthy westerners
Aren't there enough political "humor" communities?