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[–] Maestro@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago

Compulsory licensing for streaming should be a thing. It exists for radio, why not video? Let services get 1-2 years of exclusivity. After that it's fair game for any streaming service to stream it. All services pay into a pool that gets refistributed to the rights holders. We have been doing that for decades for radio, for the EU blank media tax, etc. It's a solved problem.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 42 points 1 year ago

Not rethink ... break up.

[–] b0o@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Mozami@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

The real answer here

[–] Strafer@artemis.camp 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like for most people they would be better off cancelling most streaming services and only renewing for a month or two when enough new content is there rather than having multiple ongoing subscriptions.

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

This is still the major benefit over old cable services. It is trivial to cancel. You can cancel right after signing up again and ride out the month. Not so much with old cable packages.

I think many people are afraid that they’re always going to find content they want is on a service they just let lapse. That isn’t even a big deal, just renew it then, but if it isn’t then you save money.

Disney makes it a little more enticing because their bundle is cheaper than Hulu or Disney Plus on their own, but if all the stuff you watch on a month is on Hulu then you’re not saving anything by keeping the unused Disney sub.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago

Hey, let's make a startup! We charge users fixed fee and in return give them account in ONE streaming service. They can choose which one but and change them every month.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But with the most recent round of services like Disney Plus, Hulu, Peacock, and Paramount Plus raising their prices — during Hollywood’s ongoing double labor strike, no less — to meet the demand of shareholders for never-ending profits, the time has come for all of us to seriously rethink our relationships with the platforms that have become “the new cable.”

Over the weekend, the Financial Times published a bit of analysis about the current state of streaming that should only come as a surprise to those who haven’t been paying attention to how most of the major Subscription Video On Demand (SVOD) platforms, and many smaller ones like Starz, Shudder, and BritBox, have hiked up their prices in the past year.

After years of burning through mountains of cash to fill their catalogs with original programming, the big SVOD services are now charging their subscribers more than ever because it’s increasingly difficult to draw in new customers — and because the mere perception of growth is no longer enough to keep their shareholders happy.

But much like the practice of memory-holing films and series just for tax write-offs, the push to goose subscription numbers by imposing new restrictions on old customers also highlights how this late stage of the streaming wars is being defined by the prioritization of profit margins over user experience.

Even though the streamers love being seen and celebrated as pop cultural tastemakers, Netflix — like its competition — is a company in the business of making money that owes much of its success to the way consumers have bought into the idea of it being absolutely necessary to keep up with every single new film or show that hits the internet.

To make things even trickier, the success of those streaming hits and others like them was undoubtedly influenced by the degree to which viewers were regularly flocking to social media platforms like Twitter to discuss them — a habit that feels like it’s on the decline in the era of Elon Musk’s X.


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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blaming the shareholders is partly disingenuous. Yes the shareholder problem is real, but yes the corporation has power to address it directly. There is no law that says short term profit must be maximized.

And good riddance to the streaming services. We just don't need them.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Courts have often agreed with shareholders in shareholder lawsuits about such things

[–] xilliah 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know it sounds naive but honestly I just wish I could consume media and when I like it I can just send them some money without any hassle.

Perhaps a monthly preset amount that is spread out over my consumption.

I know the pirate bay guys did something like that where you have a centralized subscription and can like blog posts and the like.

However I'd prefer something like crypto, but also convenient and controlled by a Foss program running on my own hardware.

Dreams am I right.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Minus the crypto (save for big maybe monero), I completely agree. I just don't want to primarily support the middle men and would rather support the creators. I don't mind giving them some money to distribute the media, but not even close to the lion's share they get now.

[–] xilliah 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ya I was actually hesitant to write that. Let's just say an open protocol for conveniently sending money.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's sad how certain words and technologies get saddled with reflexive opposition even when it makes perfect sense to use them. Nuclear power is another example.

[–] xilliah 2 points 1 year ago

Yah that's unfortunate, because it's always more nuanced. Maybe there is a way that works with nuclear.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know it sounds naive but honestly I just wish I could consume media and when I like it I can just send them some money without any hassle.

So the artist gets a cut of every stream? Isn't that just Spotify's model, which is infamously kinda shit for the actual artists?

[–] xilliah 3 points 1 year ago

The artist can run their own website in this model. As long as it's easy for me to send money in whatever way I please, using my own program.

[–] thystifi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Spotify's model is basically how can we screw everyone, and keep the maximum for ourselves. Bandcamp is probably a better example, where artists actually get the bulk of the sales.

[–] Captain_Red@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did anyone said Stremio? No? I might have imagined it. All this time out at see and this is what you get.

[–] faintedheart@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I heard torrents.

[–] jimrob4@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't Time Warner own the verge?

[–] rgb3x3 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, they're owned by Vox Media ~~who is owned by Comcast~~.

Edit: Comcast/NBCUniversal just has investments in Vox, they're not owners.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I knew they had ties to a cable company

Investment is still enough to warrant a questioning look at their "journalist integrity"

[–] AuthorityClassError@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they all started touting these services back in the 00's I was like "Why are you morons falling for this shit for?!" Because that all the shit inherent to such a platform was gonna happen sooner or later. Then a few years later "QQ - my fav show got removed from the service and now I can't watch it" or "XYZ got censored!" or "These services are getting worse all the time."

The whole time, I've been sitting on my metaphorical Queen Anne's Revenge and laughing at them. And of course, now that they all want to come back, I'm gleefully throwing down the gangplank!

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We all just rent stuff now and it's super annoying since the company decides when the rent is over, not us. Despite paying for the service each month, we have no say in what stays and what disappears.

[–] AuthorityClassError@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The only winning move is not to play. To the sea my friend, TO THE SEA!