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[–] A10@kerala.party 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

How many chrome vs Firefox memes do you want Lemmy?

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 22 points 2 years ago

We will meme Chrome to death!

[–] manpacket@lemmyrs.org 14 points 2 years ago

All of them.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We can only hope. But then again, we saw how people act when it comes to those changes. They will try it for a bit but then fall right back and accept the shit they wanted to flee from.

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 1 points 2 years ago

On one hand I agree but on the other I feel like ads are a lot more trouble than a new browser to most users so that part might actually work for us. The really sad thing is that all browsers want to support all majore websites and once something like Youtube requires web DRM we basically lost because everyone will add it! :/

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone have any content blocker for chrome? I want to see adds only

[–] starman@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, google will handle it for you

[–] lhamil64 1 points 2 years ago

Personally I'd like to only see multiplies, thanks.

[–] lemillionsocks 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know that the jump to chrom was aided by a number of factors, with one of the bigger ones being how fluid technology use was at the time. Everything was new and anything could become number 1.

Still it's so frustrating that when firefox had the memory leak and "took a long time to launch" the web was flooded with complaints and people jumping to chrome and congratulating google on what a modern browser they built.

Meanwhile everytime chrome gets caught with high memory usage, pushing their own web standards, or destroying adblock and a free web as we know it, the internet as a whole shrugs as if there isnt anything that can be done.

[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Remember Google AMP? And Google was proxying sites that implemented it? That shit would have been so abused if it had reached as critical mass as Chrome

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

Death to Google. After that Microsoft is next on my list.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not gonna lie, unlike just of you guys I don't really care for ad blocking. I pay for YouTube premium and other sites I visit I don't really get bothered by it.

However I'm more disturbed about the overreach this is and the control we're giving to Google or whoever. That's the reason I use Firefox.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Its like a ransom if the stakes were as low as possible. They hold your state of non-annoyance hostage and ask for a negligible amount for it so no one gets emotionally involved in this exchange regardless of whether or not they wanna pay the ransom. Instead of subterfuge or the threat of violence they "get away with it" by nature of being generally inconsequential.

All this to say, seeing as you payed the "ransom", I would personally describe you as more bothered by ads than anyone else. Not a value judgement, just an observation.

In order of least to most bothered by ads, doesn't it make sense to assume

  1. People who watch ads (unbothered)

  2. People who install adblockers (somewhat bothered)

  3. People that pay money to remove ads (extremely bothered)

[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

I've tried firefox in the past. Back and forth I go when google does something dumb but I always go back. This time I think I'll deal with the stuff I don't like for now, or maybe make extensions to fill the voids that I miss desperately.

[–] Mandy 7 points 2 years ago

We both know barely a single person this is referring to even knows what a browser is

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I just tried Firefox: Startup took around 40 seconds, UI was not responsive at all, and I couldn’t install locally developed extensions.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, right from the repos.

[–] manpacket@lemmyrs.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ubuntu ships Firefox as a snap now so you have to get it from outside of the repo if you want it to be normal.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] manpacket@lemmyrs.org 1 points 2 years ago

There's a few suggestions about debugging it in Fedora, you should be able to replicate most of them. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Firefox_problems

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what about the second time you started it and it didn't need to build a user profile first?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought the same, but no, takes that long, too.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Its less than 1 second on my wife's 2011 laptop, something is wrong with your system

[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

40 seconds to boot? I've never experienced this even on my 20 years old potatoe. I find that very hard to believe.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yep. I don't think it's a performance issue. But I don't get any logs either.

[–] waka@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

40 seconds startup?! What? Should open within like 2-3 Seconds. 5 if your system RAM is maxing out.

Abou locally developed extensions, you will need to follow the specific developer directions on that. But if you code, you should've figured that out already. If not, you tried doing shady things, which Firefox rightfully blocked.

[–] DarkenLM@artemis.camp 2 points 2 years ago

I also experienced this, and immediately after a reinstall, Firefox decided that it didn't like to be reinstalled and bricked my OS. I had to completely reinstall it because the boot section was nowhere to be found, and barely any data was salvageable.

So, even if Chrome is bad, I prefer to use Ungoogled Chromium or other chromium forks that don't nuke my computer than using a browser that has consistently given me extreme problems.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

If you are a Mac user, Orion is also a great choice.