Saved you a click: it's Motorola's Moto G Stylus 5G (2023)
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3.5mm jack Yes
So it's a contender. The rest are DEAD TO ME
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The Nokia XR21 also has a 3.5mm jack. It's likely weaker performance-wise but it has a battery life of approximately 3 days so it won't run out of juice as quickly.
I guess the reviewer doesnโt care about software updates, because Motorolaโs support is abysmal.
We just need lineageos support and we're set.
Reads headline: "oooo interesting"
It's a Motorola: "ah, shit"
Iโm trying to wrap my brain around why anyone would want a stylus for their phone.
Niche case- I'm a maths teacher and it's been good for replying to emails from students with problems.
I've had a Galaxy Note 9 for a few years now and, at least in my use case, I rarely use the stylus. It's very convenient to have when I need to take notes in a meeting or something that I need to send a copy off somewhere, but day to day, I really only remember the stylus is there when I drop the phone and it pops out lol.
Life hack: remove stylus permanently to receive lighter smartphone ;)
I wish I could use a stylus on my phone. When I edit photos, my fingers are less precise to hit the right spots.
It's great to quickly draw a diagram or something similar to explain something to someone. I could use pen and paper but I prefer doing it on my phone since it's already there. I don't do it daily but I enjoy having this option. When I was taking a break from the Galaxy Note lineup I was sorely missing it.
Some people like to make art on their phone. Others like to use it for note taking. I came across a TikTok creator that has the S23 Ultra and he uses the stylus to edit/make photos and videos.
Some find it easier to swipe with as well.
Art, annotation, memos, hand drawn animation, business'y stuff of that nature
It kinda depends on the stylus though: Some are actual digitizers(pressure sensitivity for use as a paintbrush, some even recognize tilt and rotation for calligraphy) while others are just a rubber nib on a stick(rubber finger...on a stick..no electronics just rubber).
have you heard of a notepad
the only advange to a keyboard that I can see is for drawing or signing documents
Chem stuff and math
Oh, interesting!
True. Although looking back over the last five years, and even more so since COVID, the majority of the documents Iโve had to sign that were emailed to me have been secure digital signatures so I feel like even this advantage is becoming less relevant.
Is using the stylus really more efficient than typing your notes into your phone though? I guess itโs likely a preference thing but Iโm amazed thereโs that big of a market for that.
Yes if you need shapes as well ie chemical compounds
There are languages that are just not convenient to type on a keyboard. A stylus combined with a proper OCR keyboard app could read the handwriting and compose messages in a lot less time.
Bought one for my kid because he's a little artist. Seems nice. I use a Pixel, but honestly I miss the moto "chop chop to turn on the flashlight" feature from my old Moto.
I miss that flashlight thing too. Also on Pixel now but I used an app called edge gestures to activate my flashlight. I just swipe up on the edge of my screen and hold to activate/deactivate. Not as awesome but very functional. If course I use edge gestures for everything, calling/texting certain contacts, activating apps I use regularly, it's such an awesome tool. Been using for years at this point and can't imagine using my phone without it.
In case you didn't know, Pixel phones also have a built in feature called quick tap that lets you toggle the flashlight (or do a few other things) by tapping the back of the phone twice.
I did know but I use it for my camera. Thanks though!
I have the 2022 version of this phone, and it's great value for money in the USA. Adequate performance, lots of internal storage, headphone jack, MicroSD slot, and good battery life. I didn't buy it for the (crappy) stylus, I bought it for the good value for money.
The 2023 version most notably updates the SoC from SD695 to SD6g1, which is about 15-20% faster and more efficient. It also adds stereo speakers, which is nice. It seems like everything else is only a marginal change or the same from last year.
Wow a stylus. The thing I literally never use ever and forget exists. Exciting!
Man, is the US market for cheaper phones so bad that this is a contender? And this is US$400!
Short answer yes.
The longer answer has to deal with the way that our cellular networks are set up. Most people โrent to ownโ their phones here and usually trade in their phone long before they get to the owning part.
Contracts are set up so you can get discounts, but only if you stay with the carrier for 2-3 years. The discounts are given as monthly credit towards your bill and if you pay off the phone early you forfeit all future credit.
This system allows for carriers to sell more expensive phones at rates that, while not low, most people will stomach. Phone manufacturers avoid selling good budget phones here and I think thatโs a big part of the reason. Why sell a budget phone when you can probably convince someone to finance a flagship?
Now, as an enthusiast aware of other budget phones you might think importing might be an option, but that unfortunately isnโt the case. A couple years ago all the carriers here switched off using the 3G network for phone calls and instead we use Voice Over LTE (VoLTE). This new system requires cellular carriers to explicitly support phones/models for them to be able to make traditional phone calls. These support lists are not public and make it incredibly difficult to tell if a phone not sold by the carrier will function on their network. Gone are the days were you can just check the bands the phone supports and pop in a sim.
This got a bit long and probably was more me ranting than actually explaining anything, but I hope someone finds it at least a little bit informative
Yikes, I knew your systems were different, but holy hell I didn't expect all that. VoLTE is part of the GSM standards, how'd the USA carriers make it work like a proprietary system?
No clue, all I know is imported phones donโt always work, it varies from carrier to carrier, and the only way to check is with the IMEI
Moto has a history of horrible updates to its devices. This is despite the fact that Moto has a near stock UI.
Well if it is that good and people buy it, it can get a custom rom.
Yes but in this specific case I'm skeptical about the integration of the pen with custom roms
Is nice, but 2GB less RAM and missing OIS that the previous model has.
If it wasnt for grapheneos I would get it but honestly might be a nice work phone too or a travel one
I think I'll pass on a lenovorola
I've been getting the g power series for a while now. Battery life is important to me in my field of work. And for ~$200 it's hard to beat. No, it doesn't have a great display, or even true 5g. No OLED or high refresh rate. It does have a 5000ma battery that can last two or three days of use. Head phone jack, SD card slot. Features somehow missing from premium offerings?