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I am torn. Lemmy feels slimmer and easier to use with a wider variety of apps. Kbin has an advantage of being an "all-in-one" solution for the Fediverse with a better UI.

That said I use Mastodon for microblogging, so Kbin having that built in only clutters the site in my particular use case. While Kbin has a better UI it's also more drab in color and harder to navigate. Kbin also has this karma/points system which feels odd. It skews into the negative VERY easily and is displayed on your profile. I prefer Lemmy's upvote/downvote system but doesn't have a permanent karma/points system.

I've been reading Lemmy is growing much faster than Kbin, but then I hear that "it's all bots" and not real growth.

Where do you stand on this? Where do you think you'll find yourself when this all shakes out?

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[–] reitoei@kbin.social 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Prefer kbin. Only downside is the "hamburger" menu and logo are linked. My muscle memory wants to treat the logo as a link to a front page, not a dropdown (on mobile). But that's just me.

Used lemmy. Just not that into it, even though I follow a lot of their communities. Kbin feels nicer.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

The "home button" being hidden behind the hamburger menu and the fact that I can't collapse comment threads are my only 2 QoL issues, otherwise it all works great for a product that's only like 6 weeks old lol

There's just a polish to this site that Lemmy instances don't have

[–] relative_iterator@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m on iOS and have the site added to my homepage as an app. There’s no way to refresh so I’m constantly falling into this trap 😩

[–] Freehours9@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I show the top bar and just tap “subscribed” or whatever to refresh.

[–] hawdini@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's the solution I've ended up going with too. Hoping to get my hands on the iOS Beta of Artemis soon, though.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would also be nice to have a "context" button on comments in your profile so you can quickly see your comment surrounded by the comments you were interacting with, like Reddit did. Right now I'm having to go back to the original thread and find my comment to see the sub-thread it was part of and remember what it was we were talking about.

Also having trouble seeing comment reply notifications from instances outside of kbin. They don't show up at all and I am unable to see if people are replying to them. Have to go back to the original thread again.

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[–] lixus98@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

There's multiple things to consider, both are great options, but right now I'm liking kbin more for these reasons:

  • Better algorithm, when I go to my homepage I feel that the site is full of new, active content, where people are having discussions.
  • Integration with Mastodon, I like to take a peek from time to time on the Microblog tab.
  • No feed bug. Lemmy has a problem where it would show every single new post on top of the feed (I know this is being fixed)

Overall both Lemmy and kbin are in their infancy and I expect both to get better to a point where choosing between them won't come down to which one of the two have less bugs, and more focused in the features and appearance you want, this ofc will change with the many apps being developed, since they will be vastly different.
I might end up in Lemmy or I might stay on kbin, it depends which one feels more "active" to me.

[–] timothy_120@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure Kbin. I keep trying Lemmy from time to time but between the UI and the inconsistent sorting algorithms over there I have chosen to stay here!

[–] can@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. Luckily the algorithm bug is being fixed in the next release.

[–] timothy_120@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh cool! The more improvements the better!

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think Kbin, but the lack of an easy to navigate list of subscribed magazines has made me rethink a few times. On Lemmy, it's easier to get to a list of what communities you're subscribed to and the 'local' feed option can be quite useful too (e.g. on feddit.uk I can more easily use this to browse the UK content).

[–] Double_A@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. I miss the list of things I'm subscribed to that reminds me to check in on some of those communities from time to time.

[–] Naminreb@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can find that in your profile.

Open your profile, and at least in mobile, there’s a menu showing you your active posts, threads….and subscriptions is towards the end.

I use it for the same reason you describe here.

Hope it helps.

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[–] McBinary@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're using a browser, try this userscript. It adds a wonderful list on the side bar.

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[–] oxyeth@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You can go to https://kbin.social/u/YOUR_USERNAME/subscriptions to see your subscriptions. Replace with your own username and bookmark the URL and you can easily get to your subscriptions.

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[–] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I prefer kbin myself, though it is imperfect. Comment box should be at the top of the thread, and our subscriptions we subscribe to should be more easily discoverable, under profile name/settings seems non obvious from what i've seen of questions asked by others.

[–] lost_usb_stick@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Finding the subscriptions definitely a pain, what does help is going to settings >gear wheel and turning on some of the navigation bars.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Kbin is my preference but it's not perfect yet. I have a few nitpicks but it's still the best I've used so far.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I tried lemmy, I've been lectured about "orientalism", Zelensky was constantly trashed talked about. Enough is enough...I left lemmy for kbin.

It's not about the technology, it's about the community. I prefer to restart from scratch on kbin.

[–] can@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Christ, what instance did you sign up on? Lemmygrad?

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[–] justooon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ultimately Kbin, but I'd love for there to be a "collapse child comments" button like reddit and lemmy

[–] 1019throw@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea. I've been hoping between both. Once all of these apps come out, I will likely settle on one over the other.

[–] jester@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. Im primarily a mobile user, so at this point my preferences are based on who has the better mobile UI. Looking forward to see these apps get more stable and steady!

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[–] wackypants@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Going to have to say Kbin, considering that every attempt to log in to one of the big Lemmy servers just results in an endlessly spinning circle.

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[–] llamatador@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lemmy needs just one click on an image and it enlarges the image just below the post. Kbin requires 3 clicks to see an enlarged image. Maybe this is a settings issue, and I am all ears on how to make kbin work like lemmy. But, for me, as of now, lemmy wins with this feature.

[–] functor@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There is a button to preview/expand media, it's the image/film icon just to the left of the "N comments" button.

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[–] jackmon@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that is annoying, but that's got to be an easy change for the devs.

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[–] cloaker@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Click the little image icon and it'll enlarge it for you.

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[–] Friend@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Kbin all day. Reminds me of old forums so it's got the nostalgia appeal.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I really dig kbin's interface, so much that I haven't really explored Lemmy too much. My main issue with Lemmy is that the threaded indenting is so minuscule that it might as well not even be there.

[–] InfiniteHench@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin. I think it has a more interesting feature set. Plus, the main Lemmy devs are apparently ‘free speech absolutists’ similar to Elon. They refuse to take down reported posts on their main instance, stuff like North Korea not being oppressive, pro-Putin propaganda, etc.

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[–] livus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kbin just feels more intuitive to me.

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[–] AnarchoGravyBoat@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

@Jezebelley
I'm really impressed with kbin so far. I'm still learning how to navigate it and all, it's missing the polish of something like Mastodon that is further along its development path. But it looks really promising.

Ultimately, I'm kind of hoping to end up on a much smaller instance possibly even self hosted after things settle down and mature further. The fediverse integration is wild and kind of strange to wrap your head around at first. At least it was for me.

To me, kbin feels the most like old reddit. I liked old reddit, but I'm definitely missing some QoL features.

[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I prefer Lemmy's UI but the Lemmy devs are just awful people in general...

[–] V699@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I realized why I like kbin more while I was writing a front end for Lemmy. On Lemmy you have very limited control over filtering and sorting e.g
"Top" granularity is only at the day level whereas in kbin you can do hours. Lemmy only has a single "hotness" filter whereas kbin has the same granularity for hotness as it does top.

[–] literallyacat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Started using Lemmy first but ended up staying with kbin. I just prefer the UI, even though it's still a bit rough.

[–] brianlenz@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like kbin, but I'm not in love with the mobile UI, so I'm really just wanting to get a nice app.

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[–] Myriadblue@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'm preferring lemmy. That's mostly due to how nicely the Jerboa app works.

[–] Tyson712@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Considering we can get lemmy content here anyway and kbin has a better UI, it's a no brainier

[–] xdre@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is blocked at my work, so there's that. But I do like what I see here!

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[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Tried Lemmy, found out the devs are tankies. Came to kbin. Pretty simple.

[–] megane-kun@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Lemmy since a couple of weeks ago, but I've made an account here to see what the fuzz is all about.

To be honest, I've already configured my desktop Lemmy experience to my liking so my view will be biased. On the other hand, I am finding the default UI here to be close to what I want to begin with.

What I find confusing, however, is all the extra stuff that Lemmy doesn't have. I already use Mastodon for microblogging, so I doubt I'd be using the microblogging aspect of Kbin.

[–] V699@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use the micro blogging feature inside magazines where I'm asking for help that doesn't require a link to anything. It acts like a standard forum in that mode

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[–] readbeanicecream@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

kbin for the win! Part lemmy, part mastodon. I can follow users on bookworm and mastodon. What's not to love. Add peertube and rss support and I never have to leave!

The mobile experience is not perfect, but it is improving and I hear there are apps on the horizon.

[–] Jormar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@Jezebelley Kbin, because it looked cleanest.

[–] TheTokingTurtle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin.

I can’t even log into lemmy and i’ve been verified and even tried talking to the mod on discord.

Kbin (at least for me) just seems to work.

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[–] NewWorldOverHere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Kbin for me personally.

  1. I originally tried Lemmy, but I couldn’t get past the constant refreshing on the ‘all’ page. I know they acknowledged it was a glitch they were working on, but it took too long for them to fix it before I found that kbin worked equally well for me.

  2. Then, I learned about Lemmy having its beginnings tied to ‘Tankies’ - People who essentially support China/Russia. (There are better explanations out there.) I’m not sure the platform has moved far enough away from that yet.

Right now my priority is to leave Reddit. And if it can be accomplished by not going to Lemmy, that’s a plus. Hence, kbin.

But, as both grow and change in the coming months, I might change my mind again. They’re both still so young. It’s exciting to be witness to this time!

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