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Amazon and Goodreads must take steps to combat the flood of AI-generated content that will mislead readers and damage author reputations.

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[–] Penguinblue@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

This is a valid point but Amazon also sells a lot of books based on pseudo-science and debunked claims. It's pretty clear they are not an ethical company so they absolutely will do nothing to stop AI generated books.

For anyone that thinks AI books are not a problem, I recommend this article and the Behind the Bastards two-parter that goes along with it: https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/ai-is-coming-for-your-children

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see no problem with AI-generated books existing, but as is the case for any books it has to be possible to review them and evaluate their quality in the proper context.

I used to be a pretty active Goodreads librarian but that site has really gone downhill over the years. It had potential but it's been largely squandered. Been thinking of looking into Bookwyrm but I'm worried it's actually good and will suck all my free time away again.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It becomes a problem, if a) the market gets flooded with these things. Especially if they are pushed by a bot cartel and b) known, real author names are used, in order to increase the impact.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As long as their quality can be evaluated I don't see the problem here, people won't buy the crappy ones. That's the main reason why there's a problem with them reusing an existing author's name, it makes evaluating the quality harder.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a dynamic similar to telemarketers versus robocallers or spam. Bad books generated by humans have a cost in time and effort to create them, whereas ai-generated bad books have essentially no downside for whatever organization is pumping them out. Eliminating the barrier to entry of authoring a book also eliminates consequences for failure and as the cost to do a thing drops towards zero the frequency of that thing getting done will skyrocket. Eventually the signal to noise ratio becomes too poor and people simply reject the medium.

The theory of infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters and infinite time focuses on the production of the works and kinda ignores the poor bastards who have to read that shit.

[–] djidane535@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Well, at some point, the issue will be addressed by Amazon. If it’s not possible to find good books anymore, they will loose money because people won’t by books from them anymore. If they don’t, someone will take the opportunity to make a « curated » platform.

It reminds me of the famous video games crash, when the stores were flooded by crappy games until Nintendo came with its « seal of quality ».

The main issue will be that independent authors will likely have a hard time to get an audience, since it’s likely that building a « curated » platform will ask entry fee to the authors.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But who evaluates all those books? AIs can pump out thousands of books a day and the fake reviews pumping them up, too.

Just look at Amazon right now. It's flooded with cheap chinese knockoffs, that often even have relatively good reviews. These are "artisanal" fakes, in that there's actual physical goods involved, which creates overhead and thus limits the amount of fakes that can be introduced.

And now imagine this with autogenerated books from autogenerated authors with autogenerated reviews.

It might be possible to spot fakes. But real authors will drown in the cheap crapcontent flood.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not disagreeing with you. What I'm saying is that the problem is not the existence of AI-generated books, it's the ability to sort through books for ones you're likely to enjoy.

The book markets were already flooded with junk long before the latest round of AI came along. If anything the junk was worse before because the "AI" generating it was worse - it was just pasting together Wikipedia articles and whatnot. Or just plain badly written human-generated stuff, there's no end to that out there either.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It might help to imagine it as if it were a different product. Imagine if you went into a shop to buy a computer and there were thousands of different computers for sale. Some of them made by actual people and some made by AI. The shop doesn't test these computers so you might buy one that doesn't work, or is missing a vital component, or is just a case full of sand. Each one has reviews but they're all rated 5 stars with AI generated review text. What do you buy?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The shop doesn’t test these computers

You can stop at this point, I wouldn't go to such a shop. Most people wouldn't.

[–] puttputt 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go to such a shop. Most people wouldn't.

Idk, it sounded a lot like what Amazon is these days

[–] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago
[–] RickRussell_CA@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the Eternal September, Part 2: When the AIs started generating content.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Something got done only because she went viral. How many other writers is this happening to, where nothing happened?