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[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.ko4abp.com 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is coming from Glenn Greenwald, a known Putin shill, so all this could mean is the efforts to maintain truth on Wikipedia, since Ruzzia and her allies worldwide (including the American Republican party, or at least the 'MAGA' portion) constantly seek to obfuscate the truth and alter articles critical of them, their positions, their narratives.

Now I'm not saying there isn't a shred of truth, there usually is with shills like Greenwald, so I'm sure the US and their allies are actively involved in doing something similar, but nobody lies like the current Ruzzian regime and their allies, their people are so misinformed and propagandized that they wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them over the head.

Some sources to back up my point:

https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-russia-ukraine-propaganda-suspicious-edits-1849673060

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/russia-edits-mh17-wikipedia-article

https://www.iflscience.com/woman-writes-fake-russian-history-on-wikipedia-for-over-a-decade-before-being-caught-64245

https://www.new-east-archive.org/articles/show/2967/wikipedia-russian-government-edits

https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/wikipedia-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-edits-kyiv-kiev.html

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090279187/russia-wikipedia-fine

https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/03/03/wikimedia-foundation-stands-with-communities-defending-free-knowledge/

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22973293/wikipedia-editor-russia-belarus-ukraine

[–] Lowered_lifted 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the sources. Greenwald is so far right and has gone so far off the deep end of conspiracy theory stuff that it really doesn't make sense to believe anything he says.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he's a journalist. if you don't like what he prints, you might ask yourself why.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok.

To assume the truth of something only based on profession or historical accomplishments is an appeal to authority fallacy.

Done.

"He's a journalist!" So?

"He once exposed this great story!" So?

Neither are actual arguments of the truth of current statements.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

if you think he's not a journalist it's on you to provide a reason. he investigates and publishes news stories. he's a journalist.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

To assume the truth of something only based on profession or historical accomplishments is an appeal to authority fallacy.

that's not what's happening here. i didn't say it's not true. i said he's a journalist. if you can disprove what he said, you should.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Good on you fighting for truth online

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

"Glenn Greenwald, a known Putin shill"

A yes, Snowden and everyone involved are simply Russian shills!

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

greenwald is not a putin shill.

[–] 6jarjar6@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

you dropped your crown 👑

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I am shocked! The CIA and the FBI? The bastions of liberty and justice?

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This might be true, but I will take anything that comes from Larry Sanger with a pinch of salt. Dude has been pretty much exclusively hanging out with right wing nutjobs since 2020 and was at one point spreading misinformation against Covid-19 vaccines.

[–] fear@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hadn't heard this so I did a search to see what you were talking about. One of the first things that comes up is a quote from this guy whining that he doesn't trust Wikipedia anymore because they don't allow Daily Mail or Fox News as sources of reliable information. You know, the gossip rag Daily Mail that posts anything "sources say" for clicks, and the same Fox News that was found to be flat out lying to its viewers on a number of sociopolitical issues. What a putz.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

One of the stories censored by the FBI on Twitter was the scandal surrounding the laptop of Hunter Biden, son of the current US president, revealing incriminating emails alleging corrupt acts committed by President Biden. At the request of US authorities, this story was silenced by all available means within the platform, according to documents released by Musk.

These documents also revealed that Twitter assisted the US military in online propaganda campaigns and censorship of “anti-Ukrainian [NATO] narratives” at the request of various US state agencies.

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg has also admitted that Facebook, at the direct request of the FBI, censored information that would have been damaging to President Joe Biden’s 2020 election campaign.

"I am immune to propaganda"

[–] peter@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Unsurprising

[–] moog@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

about half of this article is about Musky bois "Twitter Files" Im not sure how much I believe the other half unfortunately. the Twitter files were lukewarm at best.

[–] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Lots of claims in this article, yet very little to substantiate the claims, or any counter arguments regarding them. That's not proper journalism at all.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Did they at least donate properly to fund it or we are all holding those bags so they can play their stupid games?