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This is a climate catastrophe! If you still drive a petrol car, you are the problem! Those poor Iranians…
Stop putting the blame on the individual when corporations easily account for over 70% of global emissions and pollution. My gas powered car isn't gonna change shit.
Your gas guzzler was manufactured by a big corporation. You chose to buy it and keep polluting with it.
I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for living my life in this hellscape that were forced to live in. I'm not going to inconvenience myself and make own life harder while the elite fly around in private jets and are more wasteful in a day than I could ever be in my entire life. I care about the environment and want things to change, but I'm not the problem. And if you are trying to make the common person bare the guilt for climate change, you're part of the problem. I do what I can when I can. But to inconvenience myself or spend more of what little money I have to make a negligible difference compared to what a corporation or a single billionaire could do is not gonna happen. Simple as that.
We are all collectively guilty and we will collectively pay the price. Every little decision we make today echoes far into the future,. Being conscious of our mistakes can lead to better habits. Inaction is no longer enough, we mmdemand positive corrective action today! No one is perfect, but it is an option to live without a vehicle. Billions of people manage to live without the convenience of personal transportation. It is a privilege not a right.
Okay are you going to buy me an electric car then?
The thing about being a radical is that you actually have to do something, not just spout bullshit online.
I live a simple eco-conscious life, so I don’t have the resources to afford any transportation.
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This isn't a matter of individual, personal responsibility. The change necessary needs to happen at the government level.
Government is the collective will of the people.
In theory, yes.
This guy is a gigantic troll, look at his profile.
Maybe a troll, but not wrong.
Big yikes. As long as the grid that you plug your EVs into is based off of fossil fuels, you're not solving anything.
My grid is based off of wind. Yours could be too. Demand it, importantly demand the laws that allow it be built . Many areas have outlawed them, or may as well because of all the red tape. They are standard these days and so permits should be shall issue in request for a standard design.
I switched to paper straws so I think that makes me carbon neutral now.
Great! Every bit helps!
Good point, I'll just commute 2 hours both ways by bike then. Thanks for your contribution. /s
Yes, thank you for doing your part. Stick to bike paths when available. As another user pointed out, cars also contribute to local air pollution with brake dust and microplastics from the four big tires.
/s means sarcasm. I'm not going to abandon my life by commuting 4 hours a day. And I don't have any money to buy a new car
You are killing our shared future! Small sacrifices today are an investment in a greener tomorrow.
The sacrifice you demand is not small.
Compared to the annihilation of our environment? Hello! It’s reaching 55 degrees quite regularly if you’ve failed to notice!
The sacrifice you demand is life-ending. From the perspective of the person you demand it of, it is not better than the alternative.
It also is not a solution. Even if cars stopped being a thing across the world right now, it would only slow global warming down a little, not stop it.
Billions of people live without their own car. Transportation is an unfair advantage to get ahead and it costs the rest of us profoundly.
Billions of people live without their own car.
…in abject poverty. No one deserves that. They must be lifted out of poverty as soon as possible, and yeah, that includes giving them access to transportation, preferably powered by something non-planet-destroying.
Transportation is an unfair advantage to get ahead and it costs the rest of us profoundly.
Humans would all still be living in caves and dying in their 30s if everyone thought like you do. There isn't much hope for our species, but if it were up to you, there would be none at all.
This guy . . .
Most pollution from cars comes from the tires, not the gas burning. If you drive any car at all, you're the problem
Citation needed.. tires are a problem, but gasoline is farm worse pollution overall. Unless you cherry pick pollutant.
I believe most of the microplastics that are in everything we consume come from car tires. So probably less a climate change problem, but still an issue.
I did not know that. I wonder how much that attempted tire reef fuck up contributed to microplastics in the ocean and therefore our seafood.
I’m not going to have kids so I feel like I can drive whatever because my carbon footprint ends with me. I’m also fairly fatalistic about climate change. Humans are too stupid to stop it and when enough of us die the problem will solve itself.
The main culprits are the big oil companies. They made the carbon footprint term to make us feel guilty and shift the blame from the biggest polluters.
Yep! And I bet it'll turn out in a few decades that it will come out they were also behind the Doomerism we're seeing a lot of on social media these days. "Well it's too late so why try?" Is much more comfortable than "We have to sacrifice a lot of comfort, but if we all try really hard we can do it."
Weird thought, you ever think oil executives have nightmares about a global collective wanting to bring them to the guillotine?
They made the decisions that got us here, they have the power to turn this around, but we are to sacrifice everything while they continue to live in luxury and do nothing to help? Does this seriously seem reasonable to you?
Indeed they corrupted the narrative to avoid blame, to maintain profits.
But who are they selling the oil to? Us.
We are all sinners in this
All sinners, yep. Cool story buddy.
I said in the first place that the companies hid the impact of pollution to maintain profits so fuck off with that.
Do you think oil companies just make the oil products, emit the pollution and pump it back below the surface of the earth?
No. We drove the cars that used it, we used the plastics, we asked for more and more and cheaper and cheaper and they said "sure thing bud 🤑"
I don't get the fatalist viewpoint. Yeah, a lot of people are actively resisting change for one reason or another. But at the same time, there has been progress towards the necessary goals. Civilization will end up worse off than without climate change, but we're not going to be thrown back into the Stone Age or anything.