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[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The argument against abortion is that it stops the next Jesus coming. Since Mary was a virgin why don’t we just ban abortions for Virgins. It seems like a fair compromise.

[–] voidf1sh@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that really the argument against abortion though? I hear more about how every life is precious and it's murder than anything about the second coming. And even that is just a thinly veiled cover for wanting to feel superior and slutshame others

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If life is so precious, you'd think they'd try to help the homeless and poor in the present first instead of who's to come (or may not come) in the future.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Most of the people who are against abortion are not pro-life they are anti-women" (George Carlin)

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

And the rule only applies to other men’s women, never their women. Their women can do whatever they want. Law doesn’t exist for them. It’s just another way to control the well being of subordinate people. You have to suffer, they don’t. How they like power over other humans…it’s amazing.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No it's not the argument. @philluminati was making a sarcastic remark.

Anti-abortionists say they believe that every child deserves a chance, but when it comes down to voting for initiatives that provide support for the child after it's born, they say "fuck no; get a job" every time. They never stop to think that not all people are fit to be parents. They never consider the fact that sometimes it's better to terminate a pregnancy than to let the kid live a life of suffering.

[–] argv_minus_one 1 points 1 year ago

The argument against abortion is that thou shalt make babies. There's no worry of Jesus being stopped; there only needs to be one woman somewhere who's willing to give birth to him, and there are almost certainly millions.

[–] Ensign_Seitler@startrek.website 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Genesis 5:4:

”The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.”

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the place to make this argument is a few chapters later after the flood. Only two of every species. Except humans. iirc, there's Noah, his unnamed wife, and their three sons, Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I don't recall them having any daughters on board (might be wrong, it's been a while).

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] essellburns 5 points 1 year ago

May we all be so lucky

[–] akintudne@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

The sons had their wives too.

Still a lotta first cousin fuckin' goin' on though in the next generation.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 3 points 1 year ago

So this is the part where we get chimp ancestors

[–] FitchInks@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Iirc his sons also had wifes

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Ohhhh, well it's much better that the sons fucked their sisters instead of their mom. That would've been gross.

[–] peter@lemmy.emerald.show 1 points 1 year ago

Ah shit there goes the joke >~< 😅

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a lot of bullshit in genesis to make fun of, but this is the least weird.

it's implied in the bible that Adam and eve had heaps of kids.

[–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, women just aren't mentioned because the author probably didn't believe they matter.

[–] lauric@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He wasn’t wrong for though. His assessment retained validity for the the following millenia.

[–] HamBrick@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

This comment is technically correct, people stuck with this ideology for quite a while after the Bible was written

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Wow at the time of commenting this, over twenty people got upset because you pointed out women were regarded less important than men for centuries.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

They did have daughters in fact.

[–] nahc1234@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, before God made Eve, He made Lilith, who was Adams first wife and unacceptably feminist. (It’s alluded to in Genesis when on the sixth date he created humans, man AND woman—traditionally Lilith). It’s said that the other peoples besides the Jewish claim descent from Lilith, along with a bunch of demons.

Lilith got turned out and God had to make someone more tractable for Adam (Eve). But that’s how there were others for them to mingle with.

[–] MiddleKnight@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or it is because Genesis is copy pasted together from two slightly different original sources. One where man and woman were created on the same day and one where Eve was created after Adam.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This sounds like the Bible is just clobbered together from other cultures beliefs by a ChatGPT… and I kinda wonder how that’d work out now.

The two main sources of the bible are known as E and J. The Elohist and the Jahwist. The Elohist named so because in text believed to come from this school god is referred to as El or the plural Elohim(like a royal plural). In the Jahwist source god is referred to as Yahweh.

Both El and Yahweh were gods in the Canaanite pantheon.

[–] Malgas 3 points 1 year ago

This sounds like the Bible is just clobbered together from other cultures beliefs

It was. Noah's ark, for example, was cribbed from the Epic of Gilgamesh.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it's time for you to start a new project

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Bible is getting into the whole multiverse thing now?

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's SinnERman - he's not a spice, Maze!

[–] AbidingOhmsLaw@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Should be called an Eve complex, Oedipus was in the picture yet.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 1 year ago

Wasn't it so that Adam and Eve were just the first people created? Not the only ones?

[–] argv_minus_one 2 points 1 year ago

Why does Adam have short hair? Did the Garden have a barber shop? Or even a cutting tool?