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[โ€“] Mechaguana@programming.dev 43 points 1 year ago

They don't have to choose, it depends on what species they are working with. If they want to make a wine they have to plant a wine specific specie, if they want grapes for direct consumption it's a whole other specie.

Vinyards are quite an investment, it takes often more than 5 years to produce anything, so you better be sure that you are working with the right plants!

Also usually the vines are clones (for consistent wine taste) and so you can lose a whole vinyard if that specific individual genus is susceptible to a passing disease (since the clones all have the same genus, they are ALL IN DANGER!!!!)

Source: my uncle was a vinyard owner and farmer in the south of france, we talked about all of this while drinking his coop's fabulous wine)

[โ€“] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Farmers seem to be underrepresented on the fediverse.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 year ago

Outside of cracking the DRM to their tractors, they may not have a compelling reason to be here.

[โ€“] yads@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

The difference between wine grapes and regular grapes is the variety. If you've ever heard names like Pinot Noir or Chardonnay, those are not only the type of wine, but also the variety of grape. Those grapes are also typically not very edible. For edible grapes I imagine it works similar to other food production. The farmer sells it to a distributor who in turn sells it to wholesalers who then sell it to stores, factories, etc. Or sometimes the farmer might have a direct contract with a large grocery chain.

[โ€“] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Usually they specialise on either table grapes or wine grapes. The choice is based on previous know-how, familiar tradition, and local consumption patterns; for example if you're in Europe you'll have an easier time selling wine than table grapes, but in China it's the opposite. Then you got to choose which grapes you'll plant, how you're going to prune and "train" them, handling (chilling them for consumption vs. pressing and fermenting them).

I'm not sure but I also think that the local climate plays a bit of a role; more temperate areas will give you more of a choice between planting wine vs. table grapes, while for areas that are too hot or too cold you'll probably focus only on wine.

[โ€“] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure vineyards grow their own grapes. They starve the grapes making them sweeter and smaller for best fermentation.

[โ€“] kgbbot@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

They don't starve them, older vines produce less fruit but sweeter. Stressed do produce a good product but farmers can't control rain.