For the millionth time, Stallman was right.
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2023
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Yep, you send me html, my browser can interpret it any way that I want it to. If I want to ignore all of the image and script tags, I can. I don't need Chrome or even Chromium. As Stallman says, you should know what is running on your system.
That doesn't mean his strategy and approach is good.
Stop using chrome. Yes brave is chrome
@nicman24 Fox is chrome....
Gecko, the underlying engine behind Firefox, is an entirely different code base from Chromium
Firefox doesn’t use chromium. It uses Gecko, which is an entirely separate codebase.
Firefox uses their own engine IIRC, that’s why more people should be using it so we can get some competition with Chromium.
I think the management's recent decisions, as well as the removal/lack of power-user features for those users, have moved a lot of people away from Firefox, myself included. They really need to focus on providing really good software, not get caught up in trying to chase trends or forcing services people don't want. This WIRED article does a good job explaining the issues.
I am keeping an eye on Pulse Browser, which is an experimental fork of Firefox with uBlock Origin pre-installed and some UI customisations. They've got a sidebar with "web panels" very much like Vivaldi's Panels, and they've got vertical tabs like Edge. People also seem to be posting suggestions to their discussion page on GitHub. It's early days, but if they listen and try to implement some of the suggested features to their best ability, it could be a much better Firefox than Firefox itself.
Yeah but if you dont support Mozilla Firefox the project will run out of resources and only one engine will be left chromium.
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Thank you for mentioning a non-chromium browser with vertical tabs, genuinely something FF would benefit from.
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DRM is stupid because it interferes with paying customers and isn’t effective. If there’s a will there’s a way
It's also stupid because it's encryption but Bob and Eve are the same person.
Just use Firefox, Mozilla already put their stance forward as opposing this garbage
Firefox is faster than chrome anyway nowadays.
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Ah yes, 2023. The year I wore a pirate hat and touched more grass. Soon they'll be bribing the govt to make going outside illegal.
Soon they'll be bribing the govt to make going outside illegal.
That was 2020
Oh don't worry, it's poisoned and the animals are gone. Once the heat bakes off the greenery, there will be no reason at all to go out there except to get to your car
API changes*
"What's internet? It it like Googlenet but worse?"
-Some kid in the future
Plus the paid streaming services adding ads back in and they are all the SAME fucking ads?
🎶 Do what you want because a pirate is a free, you are a pirate! 🎶
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Wait, Google's doing what now?
They want to implement a "feature" so websites only load for you, if your browser, OS and hardware are deemed "trustworthy" aka you load every ad and malware that the website wants to shove down your throat.
Oh God... I think I'm going to be sick. It's too easy to see how you could weaponize this against dissenters.
Don't like something about our product? Have fun being banned from the internet!
Not even dissenters, just people in general. That's why they're likening it to DRM. Run something nonstandard on your system (ie Linux)? Get with the program. It's a continuation of "you don't own anything, use it how we want you to use it or don't use it at all."
Fuck this goes deeper than I thought
Does anyone else think that maybe this may cause a shift back to times before internet
Dyslexic's being attacked by that font
Reddit don't have IPA on tap anymore?
tbh I'm just tired of all of this, we can't have nice things, ever... Every fucking thing in this world is being swallowed by corporate greed. Every service there's a catch, and I'm getting mad with it, things aren't made to serve their purpose, they only exist to make money and more money for people who already have infinite money, it's frustrating. Things need to change or everything is going to collapse... fuck companies, fuck billionaires, fuck stocks, fuck all of this
I'm used to dealing with DRM, too. If it can be stripped out of a game or other software, it could be stripped out of the internet itself. Maybe some of the old cracking scenes that quit due to boredom will return for the challenge.
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We saw the mass adoption of the internet, which before was mostly used by a small group of techies. Now we might be heading to a split: The mass walled garden and a separate smaller but free internet.
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if this becomes actually widely used ill just quit the internet altogether, cause fuuuuuuuck that
The internet would probably split in two. You'll have the corpo internet that can only be accessed by DRM enabled chrome browsers and... everything else. I can't see a non profit like Wikipedia turning that garbage on, nor Lemmy and Mastodon. There will still be sites to use (with Firefox or derivatives) and probably a rich ecosystem of mirrored content with the DRM stripped out.
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We are living in a real life 1984
Hold on, what about Meta and the fediverse?
Threads is going to be federated. But lots of instances have already said they’re going to defederate it immediately, because lots of people expect that federation is part of the EEE business plan. That’s Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. Originally pioneered by Microsoft, it’s basically a way to kill off tech that you don’t want to compete with.
First embrace it, and do everything you can to be friendly towards the people using it. It’s an open standard, and you want to act inviting and supportive. Lull your competition into a false sense of cooperation.
Then extend it. Start creating proprietary additions which exist outside the standard. Do this under the guise of supporting the standard. These additions should be difficult for competitors to implement, but you maintain that this is all done to further improve the standard and bring more functionality to the end user.
Then extinguish the competition. Once you’re the de facto producer for this tech, (because users have come to expect those proprietary functions,) then lock down those proprietary changes so competitors can’t use them at all. Make the alternatives noticeably worse to use in every way, to force everyone into your (now closed standard) platform.
A good example of this is Microsoft Office. Ever notice that Word documents have historically been awful to try and open/edit in other word processors? This was because Microsoft was using EEE to make the other word processors worse. It’s also what Google does with Chrome, implementing non-standard additions then using their market share to bully competitors into joining; Every Firefox user has seen the dreaded “your browser isn’t compatible with this site. Use Chrome instead” message at least once.
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