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The people in this community hope for a world where an individual's informational footprints—everything from an opinion on abortion to the medical record of an actual abortion—can be traced only if the individual involved chooses to reveal them; a world where coherent messages shoot around the globe by network and microwave, but intruders and feds trying to pluck them out of the vapor find only gibberish; a world where the tools of prying are transformed into the instruments of privacy. There is only one way this vision will materialize, and that is by widespread use of cryptography. Is this technologically possible? Definitely. The obstacles are political—some of the most powerful forces in government are devoted to the control of these tools. In short, there is a war going on between those who would liberate crypto and those who would suppress it. The seemingly innocuous bunch strewn around this community represents the vanguard of the pro-crypto forces. Though the battleground seems remote, the stakes are not: The outcome of this struggle may determine the amount of freedom our society will grant us in the 21st century. To the Cypherpunks, freedom is an issue worth some risk.


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"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of man as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing." Helen Keller

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[–] DeadGemini@waveform.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I just run Firefox with uBlock Origin, but if I was real tinfoil hat about this stuff I would go for LibreWolf, or just the Tor Browser.

Brave bugs me because I don't want my web browser to be a crypto wallet lol (also, the only cryptocurrency I actually have faith in is Monero).

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

you can disable that stuff...the crypto wallet stuff

[–] futz@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

Couldn’t agree more. I just wish there was an easy way to replicate Edge’s vertical tab implementation. I really like the way you can minimize the title and side bar so that you’re in an almost frameless window.

I’m also a proponent of running multiple browsers for different purposes. One with accounts logged in, known advertising ID with browsing patterns and history that, when shared, don’t have any adverse effects. Various others with additional protections but nothing too extreme.

[–] solidsnail@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think they're lacking explanation of what the data means.

This can be very nuanced, and dependent on your goals.

For example, in the context of fingerprinting, sometimes it's better to provide fake data instead of no data, because that itself can be a unique characteristic.

[–] Umbrias 1 points 2 years ago

I would have loved to see spoofed data added to the list, it's a major component of libre wolf.

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[–] br3ad@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago

I use FF with arkenfox/user.js

[–] Nr97JcmjjiXZud@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Websites like these are kind of useless(sorry).

I wouldn't recommend Brave. Firefox is cool but is chromium is so far ahead.

Just use Chrome or Edge with uBlock. At Least those two have massive companies with incredible security teams backing them.

Remember, if you get targeted by an APT nothing will save you.

[–] followthewhiterabbit 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, you legitimately think Chrome is the best browser for privacy?

[–] Nr97JcmjjiXZud@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What privacy do you have if some script kiddie could own you ?

EDIT: It's the best for security and can be enhanced for privacy. I'd say Vanadium is the best we have on android, but that's only available on GrapheneOS.

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

Actually. Zero trust and whitelisting applications can help a lot with APT typed malware. Because it doesn't need prior knowledge of a threat to protect you from it.

[–] Umbrias 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OK chromium PR team.

This is a massive list of objective metrics to reference. And your entire reasoning is "big company = better"

Nah.

[–] Nr97JcmjjiXZud@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

"OK chromium PR team."

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[–] Renegade@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My personal opinion:

For normal every day desktop usage Firefox or Brave. For mobile, Bromite. Tor browser here for specific workflows.

[–] Nr97JcmjjiXZud@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is really bad advice(except for "Tor browser for specific workflows.").

Bromite's last update was in 19th of Dec 2022, it's missing a fuckton of security updates(it was always late on updates).

See my reply above for Brave and Firefox.

EDIT: On Android just use Chrome or Edge with an ad blocking DNS filter.

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[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] Renegade@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I recal, this site is a side project by one of the brave devs but dont discount the results. Brave is decent these days but its not perfect across all use cases. For example, Mozilla's container extension is a very powerful privacy tool.

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

Whenever I try to use containers in firefox, they just randomly reset to the default 4 at some point down the road

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