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Who can see my IP on Lemmy? (lemmy.ca)
submitted 1 year ago by BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca to c/privacy@lemmy.ca
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Looked through the docs a bit and it's not really clear to me: I'm posting this on lemmy.ca, does that mean only that instance knows my IP? Or does every instance it federates with get my ip alongside this post?

This seems maybe important, did I miss a privacy guide to Lemmy someplace? Cursory searching didn't come up with much official. Are there other aspects we should be thinking about here? I'd come across some mention of deleted posts being still available everywhere they were sent but that sorta makes sense -- hard to "unpublish" anything.

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[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I gave a cursory look at the source code.

So, from what I can tell, nobody can see your IP address through Lemmy. But the person who runs the server that your Lemmy instance runs on can trace IPs by looking at access logs. That doesn't get shared with other servers, or even people who adminster your Lemmy instance but don't have access to the underlying server.

[–] BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Great, thanks for this. I did glance there but saw the migrations and blithely presumed I'd have to run them to see the resulting schema.

And ya, there's no way I can connect to an instance without revealing my IP to whoever controls that host, I'd be on a VPN if I was that concerned. Mostly just wanted to confirm someone with a self-hosted instance and a script kiddie hobby wouldn't be able to directly mess with the system of whichever hapless commentor says something they take umbrage at.

[–] Sterben@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That sounds just about right. That fact that it is open source, already give me a good peace of mind.

Thanks for the information. 😊

[–] bonn2 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While I don't have a source for it, afaik only the instance you use knows your ip. The rest just see your post proxied through them

[–] BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That's what I'd kind of assumed but then realised it's probably good to be sure.

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unlike Mastodon, one of the good things is that only you're instances system administrator has access to your IP: no mods nor site admins.

You can then use a VPN on top of that.

[–] BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting! Mastodon surfaces those things? But still just within an instance and not across them as activitypub itself doesn't include such metadata (or it's extensible enough that's moot?) I wonder why? You wouldn't need to expose the IP to admins to offer them the ability to add it to a blocklist...

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

Mastodon lets every moderator, not just admins, see your last few IP addresses and and email address.

Only for local users, though. Not remote users fortunately.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

That's cool. Makes me glad I went to the privacyguides instance, since I've trusted their recommendations for a while.

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry for replying late; I just saw this question.

It's worth noting that images that people include in their posts are hosted on their instance, not your home instance. That means the admins of those other instances can see your IP address and (normally) page you were reading when your browser loads those images.

Browser extensions exist that will let you block off-site images if you want to.

[–] BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point! And ya, when I open umatrix on a comment thread I see a whole menagerie of instances serving me images as I guess that goes for the profile image too.

But I find that somehow less concerning as they just know "someone at this IP viewed this thread containing these images" than "the user at this IP wrote this comment (or post)".

Hmmm, but if DMs allow images and they work like this, a user with their own instance who wants to know which IP wrote a comment could perhaps send a message to the author with a unique image...

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it can be abused. I don't want to raise an alarm about it because I don't think it's worth scaring people who are just dipping their toes in the fediverse waters, and because it can be fixed.

For now, I block remote images by default and allow them from a few specific instances.

[–] diyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to raise an alarm about it because I don’t think it’s worth scaring people who are just dipping their toes in the fediverse waters, and because it can be fixed.

Informing people is always the right move. People should be as aware of the security situation as possible & it’d be irresponsible to withhold that info.

The warning should also come with the solution: use Tor. That solution would solve countless other problems stemming from the marginalization of the Tor community. The advice should be:

  1. install Tor
  2. get on the fedi
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