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As nothing else has been posted, I figured I'd open this up to discussion.

A brilliant race, I thought. Lots of fantastic battles. An intelligent strategy from Ferrari. Not too chaotic or arbitrary. Albon fighting on 40-lap old tires for a huge P7.

How'd everyone else enjoy it?

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[–] Immortal0861 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Admired by Norris's last attempts, just wished he made it for the heck of it.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

I love Lando but tbh I was confused by that one πŸ˜‚ he was never going to outrun the penalty. Looked like he just wanted to take out Ocon for the lols.

I want Lando in the second Red Bull seat. Imagine Max Verstappen having a teammate with balls.

[–] sliels@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love that Albon and Williams 100% played to their cars strengths, and nobody seemed to have an answer for it!

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We need to add Alex to the 'tyre whisperer' club. It's one thing to stay ahead of that DRS train, it's another do so when his tyres were so old. I'm so happy to have Albon in the sport. It's a shame Williams aren't in a place yet to have a good second driver, who could also pull shit like this.

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It isn't some giant secret; they are super fast on the straights so followers with drs can't get alongside, and are "fast enough" (but slow comparatively) in the corners that nobody can get past them.

We see this pattern from them in every race; they always lead a long drs train, with the car in front of them tens of seconds ahead.

[–] bazpoint@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Such a great effort for Albon... easy DotD, and huge for Williams in the lower WCC battle. Hope it's a sign that the Williams upgrades are decent & we may see more of it.

Russell cracked under the pressure of trying to stay on the back of Alonso... absolutely insane that the car almost finished the race after that hit... I was surprised it finished the lap! F1 cars are made of strong stuff these days.

Max mega as ever... ominous that Newey appears to be fully invested in F1 again after a few years where he seemed to drift away.

[–] ghose@foros.fediverso.gal 1 points 2 years ago

kudos to Albon and Williams πŸ‘ πŸ‘

[–] Welsh_kiwi10@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know Max doesn't need the help but my god Perez does not deserve that Red Bull put Norris in it or something.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

+1 for putting Norris in as a fan. However if I was Red Bull management I'd keep giving him one year contracts until be becomes a liability. They've got constructors nailed on and a clear driver hierarchy. It's ideal for them.

[–] Welsh_kiwi10@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah they need what Bottas was to Hamilton, up there but never making a serious challenge for number 1 like Rosberg did. Then again Max is so dominant that maybe fixing what's not broken isn't an issue.

[–] cloventt@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

Put Albon back in that car, now that he has the experience. He's proving how good he is at Williams.

[–] crashspeeder@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I call bullshit. Are you forgetting that Perez is still #2 in the WDC? And can we agree that none of Max's teammates have been able to drive the car, likely because the fact that it rotates around the nose is harder to drive for most people?

Do I like where Checo has finished lately? No. Does he deserve the seat? Absolutely. Hell, he was within one point if Verstappen earlier this year. You MIGHT be blowing this out of proportion. The car is great, but Max is the one that can squeeze the most of out it, whether by design or circumstance. That doesn't make Perez any worse of a driver.

Look at Ricciardo coming from McLaren and jumping into the Red Bull sim. The team said his form was unrecognizable. Lando would probably be TERRIBLE in the Red Bull until he got used to it. Even then, it would likely still suit Max better, meaning Lando would look foolish driving it. They built that car around Max, and it has paid off, but it has also cost a few drivers their reputations, and in some cases their careers.

[–] ID10T@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Or Danny Ric

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Albono master class! Dude is driving that shitbox to perfection!

[–] CedarMadness@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

He's really come a long way since his time at Red Bull. There's no way that Williams would normally be in the points.

[–] crashspeeder@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Perfectly stated. I was surprised Williams was even up there. Maybe this is the start of a Williams turnaround? I certainly hope so. I'd love to see them doing better.

[–] Naminreb@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can’t understand how Perez just couldn’t compete with Ferrari’s pace at all. Not his best circuit.

[–] randomperson@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Matte@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

not the best driver.

[–] ghose@foros.fediverso.gal 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I enjoyed the race. Being honest Max was on his own race as usual, but not that far.

The fight ALO-HAM was very intense, many many laps doing qualy laps each other and putting pressure on the rival. ALO managed the gap brilliantly IMO given the circumstances (lift&coast)

Ferrari's dice was right in this race πŸ˜„ Very good and consistent race pace, just marginally slower than podium cars on a diferent strategy. Kudos to them.

Albon: Driver of the Day on merit.

Plenty of action in the race despite the DRS trains

[–] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I am loving the Hamilton Alonso competition lately.

I was worried for Alonso, when Hamilton is behind you and you’ve got any vulnerability the Jaws theme starts playing in my head.

When Alonso said on radio β€œleave it to me” was a great moment.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yo why is this thread still here?!

[–] abclop99 1 points 7 months ago
[–] Ronno@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But what did Lando do though?

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My understanding is that he slowed down on the race track leading up to pit entry so that McLaren could double-stack him after Piastri. It's against the rules to deliberately go slow and impede like that.

[–] Ronno@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@WatTyler makes sense, but its sad that it wasn’t covered in the broadcast

[–] bruzie@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago

They talked about it on the F1 Live commentary.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They did discuss it on the international (Sky) broadcast.

[–] Ronno@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@WatTyler was unfortunately listening to the Dutch one

[–] d0mth0ma5@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Ted whinged about the nondescript nature of the penalty so much that someone from the FIA got in touch to tell them what it was for.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What the heck happened with Checo? He should have had a podium, but just got lost in a DRS train I guess?

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It seems like he's just lost confidence or something... he's not in the all time greats category but he should be able to push a little harder

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

He was also lacking pace. Before he pit for fastest lap, the gap between him and Sainz was biggest gap among the top 6 cars

[–] GoatTnder@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Favorite moment was Alonso's pit telling him Hamilton was just 1.9s behind. "Okay, leave it to me." And then suddenly it was a 6 second gap.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Was really disheartened so see HΓΌllenberg going backwards after bad luck with his pitstop. And Norris... Man, I really feel sorry for him.

[–] refinethe@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Decent race. Ferrari finally pulled off 5Head strategy, great recovery run by them.

[–] itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I've pinned this to the top, thanks for starting the post.

Enjoyed the race which for me was interrupted by a biblical downpour causing my roof to leak. 😬

DotD for Albon. Kept it clean under huge pressure.

[–] hotstove 1 points 2 years ago

Just realized Max had a bird in his break duct for a portion of the race. Did they mention it during the broadcast?

[–] BioDriver 1 points 2 years ago

Great race. But the track definitely needs to be widened at turns 4, 9, and 10

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good strategy from Ferrari? The end times are nigh

[–] jonj@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The strategy was scary! Maybe with Meckies off to a new team someone else is getting a say

[–] Matte@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

I think they used all the bad choices with sainz… although I can’t blame them, a race here with no SC was really an oddity.

[–] janoosh@szmer.info 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Great race. Loved those last lap moves from Norris, Ocon and Stroll. Well deserved DotD for Albon. Feeling bad for Tsunoda though, that 6.4 pit stop was painful to see.

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alpha tauri is a total shitshow this year. The car is bad, strategy is suspect and even the pitstops are hit or miss. Tsunoda has improved a lot compared to the last 2 years but we are not seeing it

[–] janoosh@szmer.info 1 points 2 years ago

It's a shame really. This is a team which for multiple decades punched far above their weight with limited resources. Nowadays it's impossible to cheer for them.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm happy that Alonso got something better than 3rd. It was the perfect opportunity for him. Good defense by him as usual.

[–] jonj@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He looked so happy in the post race interviews

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly, Alonso has seemed pretty content all season. Almost always in a great mood, even when he's criticizing someone over the radio.

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