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"He added that he plans to make changes to moderator policies so users can vote them out. Currently, a higher-ranking moderator — or the company — can boot out moderators. Incidentally, a r/Apple moderator posted on Twitter (via 9to5Mac) that Reddit was threatening to remove moderators who are staging an indefinite blackout."

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[–] MelancholikhPatata@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what a fucking dumbass... I'm not sure if I'll ever manage to completely stop searching things up on Reddit since it has an enormous amount of helpful info/posts, but seriously this dude is trying soo hard to make me stay 100% away from it

[–] trash@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously. He has to be one of the dumbest CEOs in the history of the world.

[–] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta be a tie between him and Musk.

[–] killjoy@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He just gave an interview saying Elon is his role model for how to lead a social media site.

So yeah, spez is a clear winner IMO.

[–] lavender@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

"Can we have Elon?"
"We have Elon at home."

[–] stallmer@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. The “you’re a winner and a loser” award goes to spez!

[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Specifically the "You're Winner" trophy from Big Rigs.

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[–] MudSkipperKisser@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does spez stand to gain anything from intentionally tanking Reddit right now? None of this makes sense and can he really be this dumb? I’ve been on Reddit 6 years and only went to Apollo when Reddit took away sort options. So they pushed me away with making their app worse and then took away the place I turned to. It’s not like I’m going to go back to a company that seems to be intentionally pushing me away

[–] explodingkitchen@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It "makes sense" if you view Reddit by looking only at the total number of Reddit users and not considering differing levels of engagement. If you've got tens of millions of people subscribed to a sub, it's easy to let your ego take the wheel and say, "Fuck 'em! So what if we lose a million users? We've got plenty more!"

It doesn't make sense if you realize that the "users" most likely to be alienated by your actions are the moderators and regular contributors whose participation creates the community of that subreddit. You've got the mods, who handle the bombthrowers, and the regular contributors who shape the sub in their own way by being mostly on-topic and mostly helpful. They're often the ones who throw the ball back into the ring before the mods have to step in, and some of them are pretty entertaining, too.

IMO, Reddit is likely to lose a disproportionate share of mods and power users and spez doesn't get that. I think he believes all users are fungible, and they're not. He thinks he can tough this out and things will blow over. He's wrong. Reddit won't disappear, any more than Twitter has, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy stock when the IPO happens. If it happens.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

He no doubt has a golden parachute contract that means he'll make bank regardless of what happens. Either the IPO is successful, and he gets money, or reddit fires him (and lays all the blame on him) and he gets money.

[–] Bender_B_Rodriguez@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Users could vote out mods?

So we can go vote out gallowboob from his million different subs he mods?!

[–] zalack@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Voting out mods is a TERRIBLE idea. It means a very active minority can effectively control a large subreddit, and politically oriented / minority spaces are going to have constant campaigns trying to take them over.

Can you imagine what it's going to be like moderating TwoX, lgbt, or egg_irl if this change goes through? What a nightmare.

Spez has been un-deleting people's posts, forcibly resubscribing them to large subs that they left, and sending out a warning that says "are you sure you want to post that" anytime you try to post a comment mentioning Kbin or Lemmy. I doubt he would actually give that much choice to users,

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I wonder if US businesses are pushing to purposely ffffk up Reddit like this due to it being a tool for organizing and protesting anti-capitalist/CEOfascist interests. 🤔🤔🤔

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the only viable option is a network they have zero input on, I doubt it even makes sense tbh

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

But it's interesting that spez blamed it all on "BUSINESSES" that are getting free service. if Elno is his CEO role model I'm going to assume he's familiar with the method of saying what you mean to say while saying something else. What "businesses"? He never really specificed so I don't think this is a """"""business""""""""" freeloading problem.

it's like he wants to turn Reddit into the GenX Facebook because he's counting on people just not caring to/not being able to figure out the Fediverse.

just thaenkin. 🤔

[–] Cal@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

You know, by now I've Reddit.

[–] vvv@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet sooner after r/Apple will be literally about apples, subreddits have started doing this after they got forcefully reopened

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Is there a way to add a John Oliver angle?

[–] Semmelstulle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me this is a tricky situation. I really love building Software with SwiftUI but the Apple bubble tends to stick to Twitter and Reddit.

Currently there is not enough critical mass of Swift developers migrating here. A lot of them are on Mastodon, but chats and blogs are super crappy when asking for help (looking at you, Discord!).

I really hope this will change because right now both my projects are on halt because I'm not getting anywhere on Mastodon and I still do my personal Reddit blackout.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why can't you finish your projects without Reddit? Not being able to ask for help with your projects might be suck, but it can also be a rewarding experience. For the next few weeks, just try imagine yourself as a COBOL programmer from the past trying to finish a project with nothing but offline manual and no internet connections, or kidnapped Swift developer forced to finish an app in Gulag without access to social media. Who know, maybe you'll emerge as a different man at the end of the experience.

[–] Umbrias 1 points 1 year ago

It's hard to imagine feeling incapable of doing my job without social media. What is going on in the software engineering space??

[–] Semmelstulle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Or I let myself get actually kidnapped until I finish that dang thing haha

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