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Shall we embrace cross posting?

Shall we have links in our bios if we have accounts on both? Is anyone here actively using both at the same time? How's it going?

Any advocacy on the sub-reddits by cross posting lemmy threads/comments and maybe doing more?

Or we just ignore each other?

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[–] GuyFleegman@startrek.website 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the most annoying things about Mastodon during the Twitter migration at the beginning of this year was that the only thing Mastodon wanted to talk about was "the Birdsite."

It sure would be nice if we could get through that phase of the Reddit migration at a vastly accelerated pace.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m fine with the site being a black sheep, but most of us are refugees. We are going to have growing pains and people will trickle/stream in over time. The best way to ensure the fedverse dies before living is to make talk about Reddit a taboo or a thing to ridicule. People are going to complain, just don’t engage and over time it’ll die out.

At the moment I personally welcome cross posting. I’m dying for content right now. Haven’t found a lot of mags to join. I would start some but I would be shit for modding or content creation.

[–] SkepticElliptic 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to make a request to the devs to autocorrect "Reddit" to "Cabbage" just to spice things up a bit.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Can we do John Oliver instead?

“Shits really gone downhill on John Oliver since all the subs started only posting pics of John Oliver”

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to shit talk forever."

[–] gingerrich 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Personally I'll be staying here and not going back to Reddit. I'd been winding down my use of Reddit recently anyway so the blackout was just the little push I needed to delete my account.

Ditto. I was looking for a reason to bail from Reddit, then they gave me a really great one. I wanted out of my main account because it was my 1st+2nd initial and last name, and there was no way to change it. I didn't like that info being front and center. So I was looking for an out anyway

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[–] Cantstopthesignal@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Regardless of how everyone feels about Discovery, remember how the crew had to leave behind all their families, friends, and loved ones for the greater good when they were flung 1000 years into the future? I think that's us.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of how everyone feels about Discovery

You know what I haven't seen yet? Literally anyone complaining that Spock >!cried!< in the latest episode of SNW.

Keep that in mind next time you come across someone complaining about Burnham.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

BACK IN MY DAY TWO MEN WOULD NEVER BRUSH THEIR TEETH

[–] a_cat 7 points 1 year ago

OK I love this analogy XD

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

I'm proud to serve with you all

[–] maddy@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

We are certainly taking the (Reddit-)Sphere data away from (spez's) Control as far as possible.

[–] Newby@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

I think it should just be a personal choice. If you want to interact and reference reddit, great. If you want to stay off reddit, great.

[–] trekchu@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shall we embrace crossposting? -- Absolutely. Most content on Reddit is crossposted from god knows where. It's how sites like this work.

Shall we have links in our bios? -- Depends. I certainly won't-

Advocacy? -- I was never active enough over there to speak to that, but... up to you. I'm waiting to hear that speaking of alternatives has become a bannable offence.

Ignore?

-- I think that's wrong. See 1 as for why.

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

We must be compassionate to our lost brothers and sisters, and guide them gently to the light of federation.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would at least give it some time. currently I don't want to give Reddit any traffic

[–] MyMulligan@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed. But if you post a link to the website or article directly and not to reddit I think it can jump start activity here.

[–] nonsense 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are we the Romulans or are we the Vulcans?

We're Babylon 5. Steve Huffman is President Clark.

[–] DuplexFields@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Escaping to Romulus when the purported followers of Surak became rigid and demanding in their pursuit of an ordered technocratic society, to an intolerable degree. We leave the hallowed halls of our ancestors: their katras, their monuments, their desert cities. We arrive refugees, but here at least we can build a new republic where power is willingly shared.

[–] shirro@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

There isn't much OC in Reddit posts. It's strength has always been as an aggregator with community discussions. I think repost the original sources but not the Reddit links.

Eventually our technology and civilisation will surpass them and we will have to consider if they have achieved the required maturity to join our Federation. Until then we should observe and keep our presence secret.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Post on fediverse first, then screenshot it and share with other socials saying it's from lemmy or wherever in the headline. Maybe even say which community it's from. And it could be a watermark of some kind too.

The more people are aware of the fediverse communities, the more they might check it out and just leave reddit entirely.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why not directly link to the Lemmy post as a source?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently posts with lemmy links have been actively taken down

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well, that's not my fault, when they don't want to host post with links to useful information

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, not your fault. But if we want to help people migrate from reddit to the fediverse then it's an obstacle we need to be aware of.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the idea was more, that more people will migrate, when it's obvious that Reddit removes posts with useful information. so people would look directly at the resource - Lemmy.

was just written a bit harsh

[–] zachariah@mas.to 2 points 1 year ago

@CubitOom @maegul

@IceCubesApp has a built-in screenshot feature that’s great for this use.

[–] uint8_t 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

will cross posting to reddit even be possible with their API closure after end of June?

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I think not. This is the kind of Reddit is trying to get rid of.

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I am going to keep my reddit for the time being but try to see how I can go with using purely Lemmy, and learning how it all works.

If it becomes appropriate to mention in subreddits that this is a viable alternative, or there is already a parallel server, then I don't think there's harm in letting people know and letting them decide, I won't however be blatantly advertising it

[–] JakeBacon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think ignoring is the wrong way to go for sure. Personally I un-installed my app for Lemmy but I might reinstall it.

The reason I might reinstall it is just to help improve Lemmy. For example, most of my news for League of Legends came from the subreddit and the Lemmy community I found is basically dead. So, if I want to help improve Lemmy I could look at reddit for the news and then repost it (linking the original source, not reddit).

Also, think about all the subreddits that make content from Twitter and Tumblr, it's possible some people will want to be on Reddit and Lemmy for the same reason.

[–] maegul@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yea I think there’s a healthy perspective here. Many want Twitter and Reddit to die completely. Realistically, that won’t happen, not soon anyway. What’s happening now is more of a fracturing where different people can be happy in different places in the same way that there was a time when everyone was either on Twitter or Facebook and that time passed too.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

At the moment, they're a bit on the "too big to fail" side. Digg is still around, despite much of the user base leaving for Reddit, and I imagine both Twitter and Reddit will still be around in some shape or form, even if Lemmy/Mastodon somehow make it big in the same way.

That's not even getting into things like how Reddit posts are still some of the more useful sources of information/discussion on the internet, due to the decline of forums and bulletin boards, so people will end up returning to it in some shape or form, if only to try and get recommendations/solve problems that they're having.

What might make them more likely to die is if they're not profitable, and they run out of money without being bought up, but that's less everyone leaving, and more the service shutting up shop overnight.

Which both parties seem to be trying to do in one way or another. Twitter is haemorrhaging money, and Reddit's recent controversies can't be doing good things to its stock price if the CEO more or less implied the company was not competent enough to make their own app profitable.

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[–] MyMulligan@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. Lemmy is a little dead without content for us to comment on. I see no problem with reddit lurkers finding information and posting the original website's link. Like you said, social media is awash with reposts from other social media sites. I often joke with what new meme my wife may have found on FB that I saw it on reddit first.

[–] can@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been waiting for someone to make a Curatedtumblr community. I think all the users actually left for Tumblr.

[–] maegul@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well tumblr are supposed to come to the fediverse at some point. And they reportedly were receiving people from the Twitter migration.

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[–] Aeonx@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally, my goal is to set aside the time to post or comment on the most interesting, informative, helpful tutorials that cannot be found here. To scrape reddit data via RSS and if it's interesting and not on lemmy or kbin see that it is mirrored here, so that it has the same plus more content. Getting lemmy and kbin results to show up in search results. If there is a way to improve the webui I would like to be part of it, if not the development part then at least the conversation. I'd donate $$s to make this place look and feel better than it does.

But posting on reddit...I had already stopped or reduced posting due to how often I was downvoted for not following the grain, or my replies not showing up or being deleted automatically. Some forums telling me I could not vote because my karma was too low but karma always getting deducted because I didn't think the same way as the majority subreddit. Here is the first time where I haven't been less afraid to speak...where I can be upvoted/downvoted and it doesn't even matter. Reddit is dead to me, and I will never cross-post interesting information to it except to say come join us in developing an alternative - and I can't even be bothered to do that.

[–] speck@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crossposting in a context of a platform rife with re-postings doesn't sound too appealing.

Repeat content in inevitable, of course. But on Reddit, it is accelerated because of the karma system, bots, and karma farming. The desire for more content and traffic in the fediverse is to improve the quality of experience for existing users and to make it more enticing to new ones joining. I would argue that is not the purpose of content generation on Reddit.

Maybe I'm muddying that aspect of the question, though.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Although cross-posting things from Reddit would help, by helping supply a stream of new content for users to talk about, while the community is small, and doesn't have that much to stay active.

The community is less enticing to new users if it seems "dead" because of a low number of infrequent posts.

[–] deepthaw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Civilly? I deleted my reddit account but I really don't feel aggrieved by people who stayed there.

[–] SparkIT@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL Reddit users have bios /s

[–] exscape@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Same but minus the sarcasm. Only been there for 15 years. I assume it's a "new reddit" thing.

[–] chriskoss@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should copy content from reddit, but label it "repost from 4chan", so they have to try to crawl 4chan archives to see if the content was actually first posted on Reddit

make it expensive for them to claim ownership of UGC

[–] Commod0re@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not going back to reddit so “interacting” for me will be limited to if they come here

I bear ongoing users no ill will, I’ve just already deleted my account and I’m just not going to support reddit by using it anymore even as a lurker

[–] Aaron-Davis363@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't mind if there's no cross posting. I'm sure people of a particular instance and board will be able to generate and aggregate content just fine on their own.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've taken the new reddit direction as a challenge to the users to see how much trouble we can cause.

First to the Key!

[–] CoffeeNerd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I don't want crossposts from a whole other site. At that point just copy their own link and post it here. Unless your goal is to give Reddit even more traffic. If we were just to copy (steal) their posts, it would be enough to keep me here.
I was on Reddit for news. Whether it's mechanical keyboards, monitors, anything tech really, a game I play, new homekit devices or a new protocol, Apple stuff, streaming stuff, movies, sports or regular news. Sure I also did google some odd questions from time to time that would lead me to Reddit but it was far from my primary purpose. So for kbin to be a viable solution I just need people to buy into this. To start posting here instead whenever something happens or releases within one of my hobbies.

For now I use both but I'm much less on Reddit. I used to read a book every other day but I've considerably slowed down within the past year so most of the time I used to spend on Reddit has been spent elsewhere this past week.

[–] Widget@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Probably depends on the sub.

On research and research-adjacent subs it's pretty common for the poster to make a text post with a link to a paper, quote the part of the abstract or conclusion that actually contains the new/important part, and then maybe add a bit of their own commentary about the significance or new questions it opens as well.

Those are the sorts of cross-posts I'd like to see. But if it's just a link or a meme, there's no real benefit.

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