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Follow instance rules, be decent human being...
There's a harsh reality of any service, regardless of type. If you aren't the one paying for it, you aren't the customer, you're the product. The lurkers, commenters, posters, and mods are all part of the product to be sold to the real customers, the advertisers.
This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.
This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.
I actually think this is far more absurd. The situation is more like the ranchers deciding to charge rent to the cows living on the farm. We're not just the product being sold to advertisers, we're also content creators - building their audience to sell to advertisers. And now if I want to access reddit through a third party, they want to charge about $30/year, plus a 30% markup for the app store cut. You know it's odd, everyone is treating this as though the app developer is being charged this insane amount, but obviously they aren't doing anything with the data commercially, they are simply conveying the information to us. We're ultimately the ones being asked to pay the same as a Curiosity Steam subscription - a service that actually costs money to run and license documentaries, not a fucking text based forum where users create or link out to all the content- just to access a free website in a different way.
I am aware of that as well as i am also aware of the fact that one does not have to stay anywhere. I was not trying to say anything except for that i don't like seeing me getting fucked over or others getting fucked over, especially when the people are the ones, working for it.
in conclusion, i know that i have to pick a poison, so i prefer to pick the one i get to know the ingredients in it
I was over Reddit when I saw the news from Christian (Apollo's dev), then Spez's AMA really cemented Reddit was a shit hole, then news came out that they were also laying off 90 staff members, and the final nail in the coffin for me was getting accosted by another user that I was "spreading misinformation and lying" about Reddit when I commented about supporting the black out.
I'm in exactly the same boat. I love Reddit and I love the community. I'm a mod of a couple great small subs. But the site management has broken my trust. And that means it's time for me to 'grow up' and start putting serious thought into which networks I'm supporting with my participation. Decentralized is the future. 'Big Tech' platforms are the kiddy pool of the internet, it's time for us as a society to swim into the deep end and take back control of our content and consumption. It's good to be among friends :)
It is about time we take back OUR internet, as it once was OURS. I could not agree me on that part right there. Good having you put some thought into it and good having you here, so welcome to lemmy and have a pleasant stay. The future is Decentralized. The future is Open Source. The future is Ours.
It is about time we take back OUR internet, as it once was OURS.
Yes exactly!
I remember the days when 'online community' meant someone with a cable modem and a laptop would set up a 'server' with an IRC bot or a Shoutcast stream and people would gather on forums and the like. It wasn't as slick as the Facebooks and Reddits and Twitters and all that, and it took a >90 IQ to figure out how to make it work, but it was ours. There was no billionaire owner in California deciding what you could and couldn't do or say or post according to what his advertisers would tolerate, and no giant machine learning algorithm vacuuming up your every keystroke to show you more relevant ads.
Those were good days.
Make a few accounts, you'll need them.
Better yet? Host your own instance. That way no-one can take your account down.
You can be fediblocked though.
Only if you're a massive dick
If anyone remembers the digg wave ,this feels very much like it in reverse. Where Digg got it so so wrong is they totally dismissed the cause of the issue and then assumed it would go away.Instead the active user base just left. I think this is happening now to reddit.
sir, I'll have you know I'm a lurker NOT an active user...
lol
Yes absolutely. Digg actually had multiple waves to reddit. I left on the first one but most left on the second.
It really feels to me a similar effect is happening
It's the circle of life...
Don't forget Reddit is probably one of the best ways to astroturf or push a sentiment.
I would be curious if they have a back door to corporations to allow them to pay reddit to cover up stories.
It's paaaaainfully obvious that that's all reddit really is anymore... I know some people would disagree, but I think they tested how extreme people could get about the masks and stuff to test the influence of reddit and realized it could be used entirely for thought control.
I think the best thing for society is to move on from the platform.
It'll happen here, too.
People forget how obvious the efforts of Correct the Record and ShareBlue were on reddit.
Part of it was understandable: Trump sucks and any alternative was preferable, and reddit as a whole skews young and Democrat. So who cares, right?
But that level of astroturfing would have rightly been called out were the politics swapped.
And it goes way beyond politics. I'm sure Marvel and Disney are sending out feelers to control discussion in reddit alternatives.
Welp, I also just deleted my 9 year old account. Extracted what I could, checked some communities for the last time, deleted what I could using Power Delete Suite and Redact, and pulled the trigger. I have learned a lot there, found some interesting niche communities, and had interesting conversations, launched a lot, but also got angry at times at the stupidity of people. Bittersweet moment, but I can't continue supporting Reddit in any way. Fediverse, here I come!
Ditto. Been 7 years for me. Still figuring out kbin and lemmy. but decentralized, open source and ad free is my speed ...
Thanks the black out !
The only problem is that I was planning on using reddit to transition to one of Lemmy's instances or fediverse. For example, I'm having difficulty logging into kbin.social on mobile (but no problems on desktop). OR I can't seem to be able to log into beehaw. There were various people helping me with these issues on reddit. But I don't wanna log into reddit anymore after all the things the CEO has been saying.
The issues will be fixed soon. This is a huge unexpected wave and the developers weren't exactly planning on hundreds of thousands of people migrating to their beta software overnight. But more people means more developers able to contribute to code fixes, so just keep being patient and it'll all work out. There is a kbin app in the works currently so your issues with mobile won't be issues long.
i couldn't live with me supporting people, who see their userbase, moderators and creators as nothing but noise
I can, because Reddit is useful to me, regardless of Spez's low opinion of me and other Redditors. I'd love for something else to replace Reddit and punish rather than reward the people running it for their bad behavior. Hopefully that's kbin / Lemmy?
But meanwhile I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
Subreddits choose to go dark? I support it.
Subreddits choose to open? I support it.
Lemmy ui is amazing, better then I expected
I agree. The minimalistic design is pleasant for the eyes and everything you need is there
I would prefer words over icons if I am honest, but the Icons are very simple none the less, and the learning curve isn't long at all.
Me too! Here, here!
I'm partially affected because I use desktop + mobile (on third party app), but I've decided just to stop using reddit entirely.
Its quieter here, but I imagine it'll pick up slowly. The slower pace also helps because I've been spending too much time on reddit.
Things are going quite smoothly here (except for picture upload but i heard that it already gets worked on) and the content is indeed growing every day. Maybe the perfect opportunity to correct some things or have a better start. I'd take it as such and i'm glad to hear that the convertion over to lemmy is helping you out. Social Media sure does a good job on sucking you in until way too much time is gone, but with less busy shit going on on the screen and the platform relying on real social interaction (you know exactly what i mean by that kek), one might be less forgetting of touching some grass. Either way, glad to have you here and i hope it goes better for you as time continues. We live in times that are way too fast paced, to the point where we forget to just exist from time to time. I wish you luck with maintaining that part of life that you regained through this and a pleasant stay.
It felt really weird to leave. I still have yet to delete my account but I am still getting used to the interface here. Once the learning curve is over, I plan to go back and delete.
You take it at your own pace. I mean, technically you are stepping out of your comfort zone by checking something new (which is a good thing imo) and i'm sure you'll getting used to the ui sooner rather than later. It's rally minimalistic and not bloated with hundreds of buttons. I welcome you as well on lemmy.
PS: If it helps you somehow, remember that there was a time where reddit was not a thing until someone made it and it was.
I also feel the same, though I am not savvy on the current changes happening, they don't make sense to be. I just find the mods and rules over there too stringent especially after getting banned for making a joke on a satire sub. Been on the search for a new site ever since.
Well lucky you, for you have found said desired site. Cheers mate and welcome. By the tone of it, i'm guessing that you're fresh of the boat as well
Definitely lol still figuring out how things work but enjoying the ride
Ayy that's the spirit. It is kinda weird with those instanced links, where you click on it and suddenly you're not logged in, but then you look at the url and realize, that you are but not on that instance, but other than that, it is way smoother than i expected. Glad to have you here and feel free to let me know if you encounter anything spicy :'D
Hi! Welcome to the Fediverse!
Ayy thanks! Been there with Mastodon fow a while now, just added lemmy as an addition
Before you all leave Reddit, you should take your stuff with you, and then delete all posts and comments using one of the several ways to automate that.
Ideally turn them into gibberrish or some random phrase, but nothing with sense so they can't train ai with it
Agreed