I like to shop at https://cloudfree.shop/ when I can. Their pre-flashed Tasmota smart plugs are nice and support MQTT/fully local integrations.
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I use a lot of Aquara Zigbee sensors with a USB bridge on my HA server. It works well, and is stupid cheap.
I've read Zigbee is fairly open, but wasn't sure if that was universally true or only with certain brands, etc.
It works but the manufacturers' implementations may be a bit wonky at times. Still it's cool not to have devices on the wifi, and zigbee2mqtt is just great.
It's an open standard, and you can talk to any Zigbee with any Zigbee USB tranceiver.
It's also mesh-based. I use Hue bulbs as repeaters, but any Zigbee device that is plugged in to a wall should work.
That sounds exactly what I want. I will definitely be looking into a Zigbee hub.
Any problematic Zigbee hubs I should watch out for? Or just look for one that's explicitly supported by HA?
They post a list of recommended devices here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/
Awesome, thanks. That's a great starting point.
Also, it'll be nice to free up some wifi spectrum. My devices are all on an isolated 2.4 GHz network and that band gets quite noisy.
If you have an mqtt server running already, you may want to check out zigbee2mqtt as an alternative to ZHA. Here's the supported adapters list, most of them are USB dongles that you'll have to plug into your home assistant machine.
Yeah, that's probably the direction I'm going to start looking. Pretty much every device I run uses MQTT to communicate with HA, including some custom buttons I keep around the house.
The only sticking point is going to be reconfiguring my HA server to speak to a USB device. It's currently Dockerized, and I've got little experience passing through USB devices that aren't serial adapters. Not a deal breaker, but definitely a speedbump.
Passing through a USB device might be as easy as adding --device /dev/your/usb/device to your docker run command-line, first making sure the permissions on that device are such that they can be read by the container. (Or use the devices: equivalent if you're using Compose.)
I've tried a few different USB zigbee coordinators, but the one I ended up sticking with is the 2652 based coordinator from tubeszb that is Ethernet or USB. I had issues with the USB passthrough to the vm whenever I had to restart the vm, so using that one over Ethernet fixed all my issues.
Yeah, ethernet would be my preferred bridging mechanism. Thanks for the recommendation. Will look into some bridges from TubesZB.
I'm using the Zigbee2MQTT add-on inside Home Assistant and have been really happy with it. ZHA didn't work as well for me, but Z2M has been great. You can buy the Sonoff Zigbee dongle to work with it: https://itead.cc/product/sonoff-zigbee-3-0-usb-dongle-plus/
I've got a few devices from athom, their stuff comes pre-flashed with FOSS firmwares such as ESPhome or WLED!
For contact sensors, I've got like 20 of the Linkind door and window sensors. They're Zigbee, and super responsive. I've basically built my own alarm system with them and HA. At ~$10 (USD) each, they were quite a bit cheaper than the comparable Aqara sensors.
Shelly does some nice devices which can easily run offline-only. Apart from that, the pre-flashed Tasmota devices work really well for me.
Yeah, the Tasmota devices have been rock solid for the last few years. Absolutely no complaints. They're just not quick to ship from Ali.
Also, forgive my ignorance, but can you elaborate on Shelly? I'm googling that and not getting any relevant results.
He's talking about Shelly.cloud, it's a great manufacturer with cool devices, most of them are easy to flash with Tasmota or ESPHome, but the original firmware is good too, and can be set to work 100% offline.
My lighting is all Lutron, which has local control. Then for other devices I use Zigbee, and cameras are all on BlueIris. Audio is Russound. Local control is a red line I won't cross, if it requires some kind of cloud connectivity to work, chances are I won't buy it.
Local control is a red line I won’t cross, if it requires some kind of cloud connectivity to work, chances are I won’t buy it.
Agreed.
Cameras are next on the list, but one thing at a time. These periodic expansions/refreshes get expensive really quickly, so I'm trying to temper my desire to gut and replace everything at once. lol
I have U-Bolt Pro Z-Wave locks and they’ve worked quite well for me.
For sensors and switches I’ve had good luck with Zooz, which is also Z-wave.
For bulbs I’ve had good luck with Tp-Link KL-135 Wi-Fi bulbs.
I’ve heard lots of good things about Aqara and will be who I use when I want to use zigbee devices.
Yeah, your edit definitely got it. Looking back in time, if I knew what I know now when I bought all my devices, I would’ve gone exclusively zigbee. Faster, extremely reliable and they expand and remap to each other automatically. I’ve slowly started replacing my non zigbee stuff with em.
Zwave always works for me - but costs more. ZigBee is the bulk of my devices. If possible, I avoid tuya stuff but some solutions are only tuya (switches without neutral wires come to mind.)
I am a proud owner of the electrolama zigbee stick, currently sold out https://shop.electrolama.com/products/zzh-multiprotocol-rf-stick?variant=40387937468577
But incredibly powerful
Otherwise, I have a mixture of devices from different brands..find the hue bulbs very "color true" but unfortunately crazy expensive..have an old hue hub in a vlan with no internet and it works perfectly
Not impressed by colors of wizlight
Govee is nice, initial setup via app to put in a vlan without internet and then lan only integration from hacs
Given the problems that you mention about tasmota devices, I have been buying more and more Zigbee devices (Zigbee2MQTT + Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle).
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