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...But I've only ever heard SSL pronounced as its three letters. Why not like "Cecil"? Or "Sizzle"?

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 90 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] cocobean@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This introduces a non-trivial increase in syllabatic inefficiencies

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[–] ShadowAether@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad this is top comment, I thought I was weird for a moment there

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No you and that guy both.

[–] onewhobrowses@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

At this point I can’t remember if the first time I heard of SQL was in reading and I just read it as an acronym or if it was audio/visual and that’s how the person said it… Sadly, it’s a mystery I’ll never know the answer to.

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[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have never heard of someone call SQL squeal lmao, sequel or S Q L is all I have heard

[–] hadesflames@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

Came here to say this.

[–] RockDeBilly@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In French, we just pronounce it as three letters, so I was very confused at first when my English-speaking colleagues were referring to sequels of apparently nothing.

[–] Hexorg 16 points 1 year ago

It’s always Star Wars

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just pronounce it exactly like reading the letters individually, because I'm actually a human being.

[–] bobaduk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] kalanggam 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I second "sizzle" or "sissle." My partner pronounces API as "appy" and it's the best thing ever.

[–] CinnamonTheCat 17 points 1 year ago

I personally pronounce it S.Q.L

[–] perkele@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] honeyontoast 11 points 1 year ago

I had a uni lecturer pronounce MySQL as "my squirrel"

[–] cocobean@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where does the R come from? πŸ€”

[–] jago@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I also have heard Squirrel, the first time I ever heard of SQL. It was in a webinar info session for just a very superficial top-level type of understanding, really intended for nothing more than to acquaint first-tier support staff with technical terms and concepts. "SQL stands for Structured Query Language. For short, we can call it 'sequel' or 'squirrel'." (Cue stupid clip-art graphic of a buck-toothed smiling squirrel on a tree branch, holding an acorn, because what's a webinar without insipid mnemonics?) That sort of thing.

I grokked the use of 'sequel', because the letter sequence S-Q-L is exactly that word, sans vowels, and even if schwas are substituted for the vowels, the pronunciation doesn't change much.

But for 'squirrel' I had to imagine that they were taking the R from 'queRy' and injecting it to make SQL into SQrL for the sake of a cute memory device that would resonate with people who weren't expected to have any interest or investment deeper than a front-line customer service drone.

[–] Modal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be curious if "Squirrel" originated with the SQuirreL client. The only time I've heard someone call SQL "squirrel" was because they were using SQL interchangeably with the client.

[–] pianosaurus@fedia.io 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some are more established than others. The one with the highest levels of agreement I've ever encountered, is SCSI, which pretty much everyone in-the-know pronounce "scuzzy".

[–] roo@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I'm struggling to realise it's anything but scuzzy.

[–] chadac 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to use the non-acronym name, so that I can say: "Structured Query Language. Or, with the JSON field type, more like UNSTRUCTURED query language!" And then I laugh like a maniac for 5 minutes while the other people in the line at Wendy's give me weird looks.

To be consistent, you should call them JavaScript Object Notation field types

[–] khendron 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've always pronounced it "sequel", but ever since I attended a talk by the authors of PHP and MySQL Web Programming, and they pronounced it Ess-Cue-Ell I've been second guessing myself.

[–] eddythompson 13 points 1 year ago

What I remember attending a PHP event in ~2009 was one of the old veterans there saying:

Only Microsoft folks say "Sequel Server", we say "My S Q L"

[–] False@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I always pronounced it as ess-cue-ell but gave up on it when everyone in professional environments said "sequel".

[–] Badoker@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ever since I saw this XKCD I've called it Squill

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Everything has a relevant XKCD. There's probably even an XKCD about there always being a relevant XKCD.

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[–] Grishaix@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Germany here: In my company we pronounce every letter, so: "Eß Kjuh Γ„l".

I have always pronounced it spelled out. Es Qu El

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People pronounce Sql as squeal? O.o

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] Bojimbo 3 points 1 year ago

Only monsters

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had a project manager back in 2008 who pronounced SQL "skwall." I heard "My Skwall" and "Skwall Server" so many times. We all said "S Q L." No one ever corrected him.

[–] cocobean@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the southern version

He qas actually from Philly.

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[–] daguito81 9 points 1 year ago

I kind go 80/20 Sequel/EsQueueEl (squeal wtf?) when talking in english and "Ese Cu Ele" 100% when talking in Spanish

[–] arp@lemmy.studio 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, people call JSON jason, so i suppose sequel for SQL is alright (although, i still use Es-cue-elle). Sizzle absolutely needs to become a thing.

[–] gts@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

definitely using β€œsizzle” at the earliest available opportunity

[–] givingsomelove@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm definitely in the 'sequel' camp, but the favourite I've heard is 'squirrel'. I couldn't get behind that. I have done some stuff in spaces where 'squeal' was used, along with pig iconography being present in internal tools. 🐷

[–] sifigi2001 2 points 1 year ago

for a while I used to use a client called SQuirreL on mac

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

SurrealDB has Surreal QL. I abbreviate it SuQL and pronounce it "suckle," haha

[–] cocobean@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The execution environment should be called "teat"

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since I learned it by myself and never said it out loud for 10 years, I've always pronounced SQL as "school" and I'm not going to stop.

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[–] fernandofig 4 points 1 year ago

!devshowerthoughts (community idea?)

[–] krogers 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I am going to believe random articles I found on the internet (and, of course, I am), the reason is because SQL was originally called SEQUEL until the creators ran into a trademark issue.. They changed it to SQL, but us old timers just kept calling it the old thing. Something about old dogs and new tricks.

https://medium.com/tableplus/how-to-pronounce-sql-properly-s-q-l-or-sequel-7203a5185676

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[–] edent@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

ITYM "Squirrel".

You must be a fan of the primeagen

Skwill just to be different.

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