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Official community of Joplin - the secure open-source note-taking app.

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The Reddit blackout has started for /r/joplinapp (imgur.com)
submitted 1 year ago by laurent@sopuli.xyz to c/joplinapp@sopuli.xyz
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Like many other subs (apparently over 5000) /r/joplinapp is going dark for the duration of the blackout.

The HN thread about it (or one of them): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36283249

One of the top comment puts it nicely:

The cheek of Reddits management is incredible. They've taken hundreds of millions in VC money hired an army of developers and yet delivered nothing to improve the user experience. All we seem to have have got out of is new reddit, a terrible, slow facebook like version of the site and an absolutely terrible mobile app. Where the hell did the money go? They use the time, labour, creativity, stories, humour, talent, wisdom, advice, skills of their users to try and make themselves billionaires whilst delivering a hopeless piece of tech in return, thats only been made useable by others people writing software to make the site bearable, Reddit Enhancement suite, Apollo, RIF. And yet here they are ready to make it rubbish again to get their filthy lucre. The more I think about it the more infuriated I get.

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[–] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Fully support it, the other project I'm involved with (/r/pulsaredit) is going dark today as well.

[–] laurent@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The blackout has ended without much results unfortunately. I agree with many comments that 2 days was insufficient, and now sticking to it for longer without any coordination is not useful. It should have been an indeterminate number of days until things change, but I doubt that's going to happen now.

[–] Deebster 3 points 1 year ago

It pushed a lot of people to try Lemmy/kbin/whatever which isn't nothing. It also gave Lemmy's code a thorough stress-test! When a bunch of apps stop working at the end of the month, I think we'll see another spike.

[–] narF@mstdn.ca 2 points 1 year ago

@laurent Oh wow! Je suis content de voir qu'il y a une communautΓ© Lemmy pour Joplin!

[–] aboutscientific 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is great to see a community forming for Joplin on Lemmy, even if getting used to the fediverse, lemmy-style, can be rough around the edges. Still, I was able to use both Mastodon and Lemmy on another instance to follow the discussion - that's truly nice!

Also - a good decision to temporarily close the sub on Reddit, thank you.

[–] JoplinEnjoyer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please consider creating an official Joplin forum on an instance that doesn't block other servers...

I want to be able to talk about Joplin and share user tips but I literally can't subscribe to this forum from my home server because Sopuli blocks it. 😒

[–] laurent@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, yes that's not great, we wouldn't want the sub to be part of a gated community. Is it possible to move subs to different servers? Actually I'm not admin here, it's @graphito@beehaw.org so it would be up to him

[–] graphito 1 points 1 year ago

Responded to the user above. I understand that fediverse as a whole might look gated within itself but there's a good reason for that. As of now, sadly, there's no viable way to ensure quality of content without instance blocks

The underlying protocol fediverse works on (activitypub) allows to move subs to different servers and I'd be happy to hand this community over to the instance of your choosing once the suitable candidate is found

[–] graphito 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for late response

That's right, sopuli does indeed take care in choosing what instances it federates with. By creating this community on sopuli, I personally put my trust into the admins to moderate content coming to it. It may look restrictive on the surface but it's a trade off that has to made in order to ease moderation of this (or any other) community.

Creating a separate official instance without any blocks would mean someone would have to sift through all the content on fediverse and manually remove trolls/unmarked nsfw/spam/ etc etc.

For example, your instance has open registration policy which tacitly allows creating armies (~thousands) of bot accounts per day that could (and that already happened many times in fediverse history) completely cover every post, comment and community with spam/illegal content/unmarked nsfw on each federating instance. Each of those bots had to be manually reviewed and banned: do you see magnitude of the problem here?

So, in short, hosting official community without any blocks requires a lot of full-time staff just for moderation purposes.

I get that registering on open-registration instance seems to be much easier but I plea to consider this user account as a demo, not a permanent one. Fediverse as a whole designed to discriminate against those instances due to reasons listed above and this community cannot change this trend.

[–] graphito 1 points 1 year ago

Cross posted here

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I’m going to drop in a quick thank you to whomever mention this Lemmy instance in the r/Joplin sub. I wouldn’t have known this was here without it. πŸ‘