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I wouldn't bother with the concept of de-federation in a beginners guide. One of the most confusing bits of the fediverse to new users is picking a server. For most users, the one they pick doesn't really matter, but talking about defederation makes it sound like a really important choice.

Alright so this seems a good a place as any to ask dumb questions... This almost feels like the 90's and using the internet for the first time 🤣

So, I'm viewing this post on lemmy.world, but the content itself is from beehaw.org, simple enough. What happens if beehaw.org is unavailable, let's say permanently shut down, right now? Is the past content still available on other instances or does it just poof? Could I still view this post one day, week, month, year after a shut down? Could I still comment? The image itself I see is hosted directly on the beehaw instance so that obviously depends on a stable instance.

Thank you for your work! I wonder if this could be updated to include join-lemmy since it just points people to kbin.social. That might be confusing if they're trying to find a Lemmy server or well, simply other instances in general!

all the weirdly specific cat subreddits if I don´t have a my r/catloaf idk what I'm going to do.

I like this style! Kind of reminds me of a whiteboard. It’s neat!

As someone who is brand new here, I agree with the others: the de-federation part confused me. But the email analogy was easier to grasp. Otherwise thank you for this!

Needs a bit more whitespace to not be a wall of text in my opinion. But looks good in general!

Really like it, sadly I don't think the people I'd share it with would be willing to read through it. I'll try with word of mouth for now and use this as a backup.

Important note for kbin (and fedia.io): if you sign up and fail to click that confirmation link, I think you're basically SOL. So don't make the same mistake I made! Click that confirmation link, it expires in an hour!

Very nice! Perhaps it would be a good idea to spell out that you can subscribe to any community in the Fediverse no matter what part of it you signed up on, kbin or any instance of Lemmy?

I know that's not absolutely accurate, but it's close enough.

It's great. I agree with the removal of de-federation, I don't see how that's important at this stage. And since you mention kbin.social, why not also point people to https://join-lemmy.org/?

Saving this for when I need to explain to people the differences.

So, is kbin a lemmy instance? If so, how do I log in over there? I'm registered here on beehaw, so how do I access/vote on kbin content?

gotta say, as a somewhat technically-inclined person, I don't like this fediverse stuff.

What's the difference between kbin and Lemmy? I saw something about Lemmy having 'baggage' and kbin being a newer iteration?

I did't knew I could use a mastodon accout and created a new one here on Kbin. I'll like to know more about that, if it's possible (yet, I know I can use my mastodon account to subscribe to content from other platforms and see it on my mastodon's activity feed)

It is a great post, but I would recommend changing the color you use for lemmy in the text. It is too close to black and it looks like only kbin is a different color. When I first read it, I thought there was a smudge on my screen.

Additionally, it seems that kbin.social is not currently federated due to being behind cloudflair and not being configured correctly. (according to other users) but I can confirm that kbin.social is not currently federated.

Learned lot of things, quite new into the fediverse. Is there an equivalent Community like the r/coolguides, that would be the perfect place

Is there a list of kbin instances? The one from kbin.pub seems to be incomplete.

I'm having a hard time figuring out how to subscribe to a community from another instance. I know I need a link to the community (not sure what this looks like as the one I thought I'd found didn't work) and a search bar to paste it in, which I found once on jerboa I think but not again. Is there a more detailed guide for subscribing to another instance's community?

Wow! I was going to make a guide but this is so much better than what I could've made.

What a great infographic, thank you!

You're telling me that i could have just.. logged in with my mastodon account? How does that work? (i know its beyond the scope of the guide but i want to try)

"You can use a mastodon account to use lemmy"

What do you mean?

As others have said, I would not talk about de-federation, and try to keep text as concise as possible. I believe we need a super easy, short and visual guide (this one is definitely on the right track).

I think the core concepts that should be illustrated are:

• fediverse nature (as you did);
• it doesn't matter where (on which instance) you sign up, you can still access and interact with all content of any other instance. Could be seen like having multiple doors (or streets) to access the same room (or town square).

I believe these two are the most important bits of information (and what puzzles people the most)

Jerboa has a not very user-friendly interface. Maybe I'm not used to it, but the feed updates jerkily, everything works with a slight lag.