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AlmaLinux makes its choice: The friendly fork (dissociatedpress.net)
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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have mixed feelings about this, but before I pass any kind of judgement, I want to see what directions this goes in. I happen to really like AlmaLinux. I run it as the OS on my proxy server and it has been very reliable. I am more critical of this misguided marketing notion of "Enterprise Linux." It has everyone in fear, most notably the PHB, of running Linux. If you have the in-house tools and expertise to run Linux, the whole "Enterprise Linux" FUD should not apply.

What the idiots in charge want is somebody to yell at if things don't work and to throw their weight around. What they don't know is that there is enough legalese in the terms of use to basically render Red Hat and IBM blameless. You know how difficult it is to sue a software company? It's very hard.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My last job we had RHEL on most of our linux boxes (it was a predominantly Windows shop). In the 8 years I was there I made use of the RHEL support we had once, about a kernel issue, that I never got any resolution or workarounds for.

At the time I pushed to phase them out for CentOS boxes to save costs but mostly wasn't listened to.

[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 10 points 2 years ago

I am not surprised in the least. Support contracts sold on fear, uncertainty, and doubt are money makers.

[–] someguy@lemmyland.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm curious to see if oracle, amazon, or suse will try to absorb some of the RHEL derivatives like alma and rocky. Right now there seems to be a lot of fragmentation in RHEL derivatives. Not to say they are trying to compete with Red Hat, but Amazon and Oracle seem like they would try to do so this way.

[–] Aurailious 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Doesn't Amazon just use RHEL as base for their image already?

[–] someguy@lemmyland.com 2 points 2 years ago

I was under the impression that like Oracle, they used RHEL sources as their base (from git.centos.org). But it appears that they now (as of 2022) only use fedora sources and maintain other sources on top of fedora, so they've deviated from RHEL compatibility as far as I can tell.

[–] aport@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I thought amazon linux was loosely based on fedora

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

Without the 1:1 compatibility, it makes me wonder if there's much use case for this over CentOS Stream.

[–] Animortis 3 points 2 years ago

Trick is with these are those who need compatible products so they can match Red Hat systems run somewhere else. Test servers and so forth at colleges and the students who need to run tests back in their rooms but aren't going to drop for RHEL.

[–] tram1@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

Is it that difficult to get the RHEL source code now? I'm sure some people developing Alma have access to RHEL. I mean, sure, they cancel your subscription if you redistribute it, but how do they know if you do? Even if they put things in the source code to identify who got it, I'm sure they can find a way to get past that.