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are there a lot of vegans on lemmy? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by espersentinel@lemmy.ml to c/vegan@lemmy.ml

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Just joined yesterday and it seems like these communities are pretty empty. Is there a bigger one somewhere?

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[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In proportion I believe we are more here than in more mainstream places like reddit.

I left reddit definitely when a post about how hunting was fun in the japanlife subreddit shows that the majority of it's user are totally ok with that.

Lemmy, having a better community today is definitely better to have conversations about any topic. Hopefully we won't have the problem of admins skewing the conversations by biaising the algorithm like in reddit and all the moderators competing to be the worse human being.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, the issue is that most people are ok with that, not just users, but hey. If lemmy is about to grow it would benefit the animals to create a strong vegan culture here from the start

[–] hotwarioinyourarea 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although, there's more of us now we're still sadly a pretty niche community. Theres no reason why we can't make this a nice little garden to hang out in though :)

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I agree. Ill try to post on here more to keep it going

[–] brayd@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk in general but I'm vegan for about 3-4 years now.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Congrats im jealous. Currently at about 2.5

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in absolute numbers but at least until the recent exodus the relative number of vegans here was quite high. But as the other comment said, this is for now the largest.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I've noticed a relatively high number of people posting in other communities have been giving vegan vibes compared to reddit, which is why I was confused that this sub(do we call them subs here) seemed so empty.

[–] biscuitsofdeath@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I'm here. Veganning every day!

[–] melonade@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think there is a bigger vegan community on lemmy. Lemmy has just been lacking users in general.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm vegan. I had started a vegan only instance a while ago, but it didn't get any traction so I closed it.

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That explains why it is now pointing to lemmygrad 😬 Maybe now would be a good time to reopen it if you have a backup laying around.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't, it'd pry be better to build up the community here. And then in the future if there are enough ppl that would like their own one, I could host that for us.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

As this is the first community that popped up for me in the search bar (jerboa, thx again) it seems like that would be the best case

[–] LSNLDN 5 points 1 year ago

Reddit refugee vegan here 👋

[–] ghylahad@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Vegan here! 🙋‍♂️

[–] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried being vegan, but it's basically impossible in Eastern Europe. I settled for just being a vegetarian trying to reduce my cheese & milk consumption and made my peace with that.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Veganism, as it is defined, is an ethical framework that seeks to, where practicable and possible, eliminate all forms of exploitation and harm to animals, directly or indirectly, that we can control. We tend to be specific on terms so that our movement doesn't get bogged down, so forgive me for sounding rude or dismissive as that is not my intention.

That being said, what is available to you? Perhaps I could help you out if you'd like advice. I currently use some products that would be harder to find outside of the United States, but when I first decided to be vegan I didn't have the same access and relied on much more simple ingredients

Edit: idk how to dm mods, but let me know if that breaks rule 2

[–] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess by that definition I'd be an aspiring vegan :))

The issue isn't access to raw ingredients, when we have the time my gf and I do cook vegan food (we made a vegan butter "chicken" just a few days ago). The issue is when we go to a restaurant or order takeaway due to work obligations and being super busy, there are no vegan options and normally 1 vegetarian option laden with cheese.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the issue that vegans like myself would have with that is that we don't agree that convenience is more important than an animals life. Veganism is very binary due to the definition. If you're a star wars fan, think yoda: "do or do not, there is no try". The fact that its an ethical framework means that as strong men, women, and nonbinary adults we hold ourselves to what we think is moral and right. A vegan, at a work dinner where there are no vegan options, just doesn't eat that meal and is hungry. Super inconvenienced and annoyed, but hungry. I personally believe that a lot of the things that seem hard about veganism go away with 2 things: understanding the why, and experience. As far as understanding the why, I would recommend this: https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch

Edit: this movie is graphic. If you aren't in a good mental place, wait till later. It is important for people to see what they pay for that's not a block of cheese that they buy from the store

[–] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am definitely a hard-liner when it comes to meat. I do find it harder to be such a hard-liner with other animal products, even though I'm aware of the conditions in dairy factory farms. I do agree with you, I'm just saying it's difficult.

[–] espersentinel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Respectfully, I'm new to lemmy so I dont know how strict the mods are here, but I think that you want to continue this discussion. We should move this conversation to direct messaging or to another community of your choice, due to the rules of this sub. Happy to continue talking though

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This particular community is a vegan only one, no carnists allowed, but we could definitely have a /c/askavegan community for those interested or ot the fence.

[–] Vegasimov 5 points 1 year ago

It is difficult, don't get down on yourself. I think I had the typical vegan journey: carnist > veggie (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan

And now I see animal products the same way you see meat: it's just not food. It can be difficult to get there, but once you do it won't be "the takeaway doesn't have vegan options so I'll have the veggie," it'll be "the takeaway doesn't do any edible food"

[–] JCDenton 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been vegan for a few years in East Asia where, believe or not, is a horrible place to be vegan (not to confuse it with south East Asia where there is a vegetarian tradition).

More than 90% of the restaurants and processed/packaged food contains animals. It is almost impossible for me to eat outside unless I specifically go to a vegan restaurant but they are only a few in the country.

What I won’t do is to bow to the society or to the brands that keep abusing animals. If I can’t find vegan snacks or a restaurant, so be it. I will cook my own food and find alternative ways.

Even vegan brands are starting to appear here, so I hope the same will happen in your country. I’m pretty sure of it since it appears to be a global tendency.

[–] erbs@lemmy.org.uk 3 points 1 year ago

We can do it. There are ... I was going to do the DOZENS OF US thing, but eh. Maybe there aren't yet!

[–] Speckle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know the post is a bit old, but there's one more of us now!

[–] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

🙋‍♂️

[–] piezoelectron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Hello!

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