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[–] bunkrra@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what is the point here? why to argue over the topic? its a war, its harming everyone, doesnt matter who start, just follow the money, the rest is just afterparty with destructive effects.

and other thing, link is to globsec report, do you know what is globsec? its warmongering companies backed up pseudo non-profit/NGO. Just have a look in their sponsors for their main event (https://forum2023.globsec.org/partners/).

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wew, US DoS, NATO, all manners of Visegrad imperialist stooges. Mainly Slovak ones.

So here you have, your point - when warmongers are publishing data about their war being unpopular despite their own crazy propaganda campaign it means something is maybe changing there.

[–] bunkrra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i have doubts, the rhetoric in the posted report stinks like bypartizan tactics and still presents glorification of NATO/US activities.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's undoubtedly the idea behing this, especially looking at pretty clearly false results for Poland for example - idk who they asked but a lot of people here do have doubts, and the support for Ukraine is far from universal (it's only universal in media and politicians but that's hardly surprising considering how they are the keepers of the polish information bubble) - as you could observe few months ago when pro Ukrianian manifestations were attended by merely few dozen thousands people in entire country. Which for something that was organized and supported by vast array of central and local government institutions is truly pathetic.

But they still admitted that not everyone is supporting their propaganda, something that was unthinkable even few months ago when all antiwar protesters in Europe were proclaimed "Putin's agents" by media.

[–] bunkrra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they collect the data from various sources, but its a small sample and its usually demografic focused. As you wrote, not acurrate. For me the whole topic is a bit on the edge, who is responsible ... Slovaks dont trust East nor West (geographicaly Slovakia is on the boarder, same with minds of people), there are strong lobies from US, on the other hand Russia is deeply rooted in slovak society, both political parties accusing the other to be a "spies", its funny.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Well you can see that even in USA where reps accuse dems of being Chinese agents and dems accuse reps of being Russian agents, and i think "IF ONLY".

[–] nerrad@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia propaganda working its magic.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hahaha those are the sponsors and partners of that "Russian propaganda"

Some highlights include:

[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In all other countries, mentioned in the survey (V4, Baltics without Estonia, Romania and Bulgaria) majority of the population agrees on Russia being primarily responsible for the war. This includes 85% of Poles, 79% of Lithuanians, 74% of Latvians and 71% of Czechs.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And there is nothing remarkable about that, the surprise is that any countries in the west are starting to have significant amounts of people who are not going along with the mainstream narrative.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Pretty sad how after decades of "do not trust the media" spammed everywhere, Poles turned out to trust it blindly.

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[–] TheBelgian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can tell you that most belgians don't approve NATO/EU move but my country is coward, unfortunately, they barely move for internal affairs, so for international matters, that's a lost battle.

Muslims and immigration (not the UA one of course, which is the most expensive!) is the root cause of all the malfunction.

Listen, if we were truly sovereign, none of the actual belgian actions make a freaking sense.

[–] TheBelgian@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Muslims and immigration (not the UA one of course, which is the most expensive!) is the root cause of all the malfunction.

I think this sentence have been lost in translation. I don't say it's the root cause actually. I mean that my fellow -racists- citizens are blaming them for the situation.

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