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The thing about Twitter is that it really lacks a lot of the features you'd expect from a true Mastodon replacement.

For example, there's no way to edit your toots (which they, confusingly call "tweets"—let's face it, it's a bit of a silly name that's difficult to take seriously).

"Tweets" can't be covered by a content warning. There's no way to let the poster know you like their tweet without also sharing it, and no bookmark feature.

There's no way to set up your own instance, and you're basically stuck on a single instance of Twitter. That means there's no community moderators you can reach out to to quickly resolve issues. Also, you can't de-federate instances with a lot of problematic content.

It also doesn't Integrate with other fediverse platforms, and I couldn't find the option to turn the ads off.

Really, Twitter has made a good start, but it will need to add a lot of additional features before it gets to the point where it becomes a true Mastodon replacement for most users.

#twitter #mastodon #twittermigration @fediverse

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[–] CardboardRobot@mstdn.social 4 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse @donmelton Twitter sounds too confusing. How do you even view a toot there without it getting absorbed into some advertising scheme? Maybe I’ll try again when they get their act together.

[–] caragraph@lor.sh 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] jfml@mastodon.art 3 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse The problem with Twitter only having one instance also is: Imagine if some douchebag bought it and tried running it into the ground by inviting all the fashs back in, replacing replacing the Twitter logo with cryptocurrency memes and other weird bs. You couldn't even switch to another instance if a random weirdo like that took over …

[–] Giselle@mastodon.me.uk 3 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse
I will never not boost this whenever I come across this post, it's so good. And read it again in full measure for the enjoyment of it. Thank you!

[–] adora@tech.lgbt 3 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse while amusing in itself, I think that framing things this way is important too, because it lets us shed the veneer that the status quo is the thing people need to match before any new ideas are allowed to be examined

[–] toxtethogrady@universeodon.com 3 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse Is Twitter seriously thinking of competing with Mastodon?

[–] VehementSack@hachyderm.io 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse I’m confused. What billionaire owns Mastodon???

[–] mafeesh@socel.net 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

Thanks for editing this, it gave me a good chuckle when it popped up on my feed this morning.

[–] Craktok@mas.to 2 points 2 years ago
[–] ChrisWere@toot.wales 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse
Most of the people I know who use Twitter try it for a short time and tend to bounce off it. I can't see it gaining enough critical mass to be relevant.

Also, since my work workplace expect me to be on it, it kind of has that LinkedIn vibe where you're not really supposed to have fun there, but just talk about work based topics.

#TwitterIsCrumbling

[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse one killer feature is a recommendation algorithm... or it was... it seems that the owner pulled the plug this week or last week to save server costs, because now my Twitter homepage stopped having anyone I wasn't following. Very bad business decision by the owners. Concerning. !

[–] Bro666@social.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

their mascot is also kinda shit

[–] Jeffgodofbiscuits@toot.monster 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse I don’t know if the bad parts of twitter have gotten any worse, but the good parts have certainly gotten worse. It’s just not as good for breaking stories as it once was.

[–] toxtethogrady@universeodon.com 2 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse The ability to "edit" is something Twitter reserves to paying customers. Musk is never one to resist picking up a dime that drops on the pavement...

[–] DJGalbreath@home.social 2 points 2 years ago
[–] JorgeStolfi@mas.to 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

But Twitter is improving! It already copied several great features from Mastodon, like no italics and bold markup, "tweets" in reverse chrono order, full-size image previews instead of thumbnails (and always at the end), removed the "dislike" button...

It even went one better than Mastodon and limited tweets to 250 chars instead of 500.

Another Mastodon feature that Twitter still lacks is showing the same boosted toot, in full, every time someone boosts it.

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[–] jamesp@social.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse Didn't you mix Twitter and Mastodon up, or is this just me?

[–] shinygames@dice.camp 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas While obviously not as important as the other features you mentioned, account verification against your own website is another useful feature Twitter doesn’t have yet. I’m sure they could come up with a clever alternative though. #twitter #mastodon #twittermigration

[–] laurenthemself@aus.social 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas This just got boosted into my timeline (trunk?) and I laughed really hard.

[–] didgeridoo@aus.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@ajsadauskas This so funny and it hits the nail on the head. I notice there is copy-paste plagiarism going on here whoever actually did first write this, possibly someone in this thread, should do a substack or Medium and I will be first in line to sign up.

[–] ajsadauskas@aus.social 1 points 2 years ago

@didgeridoo Hi and thanks for the kind words, Night Owl 😊

And yes, I originally wrote it. If someone else has copied and pasted it, then I'm flattered, I guess? I would hope they have attributed it though?

As for other things I've written, here's a list of my articles on urban planning and sustainability for The Fifth Estate: https://thefifthestate.com.au/author/andrew-sadauskas/

Here's my articles for IT News: https://www.itnews.com.au/author/andrew-sadauskas-753108

Here's something I've recently written for Engineering Education Australia: https://eea.org.au/insights-articles/want-your-business-become-more-innovative-here-are-four-tips-experts

[–] Oceane@social.coop 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@ajsadauskas @sebsauvage @fediverse I've met a transgender person who claimed that Twitter was a decent place when you could use bots to block everyone liking a mean post or following its poster, and it's probably still much more relevant than Mastodon in terms of anime-related communities, for some part because Mastodon doesn't have an equivalent to QRTs while animes are still (hopefully) driven by Asian communities, so Musk banning bots is objectively a bad thing…

[–] Oceane@social.coop 1 points 2 years ago

@fediverse @sebsauvage @ajsadauskas But it means that even community-provided features don't work on Twitter now. Maybe this person should join a community-run network but I'm also not sure that Mastodon would be as community-run as we pretend, at least it doesn't seem to be Gargron's point of view https://www.theverge.com/23658648/mastodon-ceo-twitter-interview-elon-musk-twitter

[–] donwatkins@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas This is fabulous! :)

[–] kiudecan@framapiaf.org 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas
I started reading it very skeptically until I realised I had unconsciously mixed up Twitter and Mastodon in your statements.
Totally agree 100% once I cleared that up ^^
@Fediverse

[–] riggbeck@mas.to 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

I am the most non-tech person I know. Only bought an Android phone a few years ago because it was impossible not to have a number. Even then, I only use it for photos and as an alarm clock. Know my way round my beloved MacBook Pro because I've had them for decades, but anything else and I'm all at sea.

Even I managed to get my head round Mastodon after being kicked off twitter.

[–] tip@mastodon.online 1 points 2 years ago
[–] elala@nrw.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] mshiltonj@universeodon.com 1 points 2 years ago
[–] dpreacher@fedi.absturztau.be 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse fun read but when someone toots and calls tweets as silly... 😛
just kidding, don;t wanna get trampled. also shouldn't they be "barking" now with the new logo that they got recently. i only know form what someone had posted here.

"barking up the wrong post" would be a common there probably

[–] Serene117@mastodon.world 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse as someone who’s been on both for a little while (been on mast less time) I got a laugh at this!

[–] smallcircles@social.coop 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

It was fun seeing all the confusion and pushback on Hacker News by all those our-thing-is-bigger #birdsite :birdsite: folks, when reading your great toot. Oh, and completely missing the satire, of course.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35578226

[–] Quilly@equestria.social 1 points 2 years ago

@smallcircles
This is truly a how to overcomplicate a joke moment
@ajsadauskas @fediverse

[–] TRiG@mastodon.ie 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse

Mastodon and Twitter are very different beasts. Neither fills the other's niche. I used Twitter for one thing, and that one thing is completely impossible on Mastodon.

(People see a new, strange, but exciting sport on television that they'd not previously heard of, and tweet about it. I loved searching those tweets, and occasionally interacting with the people. Mastodon does not allow this, for no good reason.)

#WorldChaseTag #Twitter

[–] raiaren@universeodon.com 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse
Excellent analysis!! 👏 👏 😄
#TwitterMigration

[–] stuart1234_@stranger.social 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse I'm kinda deviating between here and Twitter tbh - if only there was somewhere else that has the best of both worlds

[–] patricklee@kolektiva.social 1 points 2 years ago

@ajsadauskas @fediverse the thing about twitter is that it lacks what it had six years ago.

[–] SuperJerrBear81@spore.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@ajsadauskas @fediverse I originally heard of Mastodon through a friend. They were talking about how they were reluctant to join because a trusted friend informed them there was a lot of rampant racism and bigotry. However, another person replied to their tweet that Mastodon is decentralized, so those instances of bigotry were not indicative of the platform as a whole. I joined the Project Mushroom server and have enjoyed Mastodon since.

[–] WallacePrintz@hachyderm.io 1 points 2 years ago
[–] adriel@spore.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Fuman@sfba.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] wolfnowl@universeodon.com 1 points 2 years ago
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