Protonmail is okay as an alternative to gmail and the likes for personal use-case. Not a good service for journalistic and activistic use though
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@altair222 @fosserytech can you give an example of what would suffice?
for?
@altair222 you said Protonmail was nice but not good enough for journalistic or activistic needs. I'm curious what would be? What services, I mean.
Ah, I'm not sure for activistic or journalistic needs, sorry!
@starlord117 @altair222 I think self-hosting your mail is the only great solution for extreme threat models
@altair222 @fosserytech for activist and journalistic case (hoping you have Android instead of iOS) would be Signal, or Molly which is hardened Signal Fork, Session, or Briar.
Not too sure about PC.
@AnonymousEntity @altair222 I would recommend custom roms instead of regular Android for real privacy. Android's new "Privacy" Sandbox is a scam.
And using Signal with VOIP if they must
Session has alt-right affiliations so i stay away from it. Can suggest SimpleX due to its infrastructure system but it is still a very young project
@altair222 @AnonymousEntity Hi, Could you elaborate on "Session has alt-right affiliations"? I use it with my friends and would like to know more about this.
I'm unable to find the evidence i once held on the matter. I'm going to continue trying to find it.
@altair222 My main app to use is Molly.
If I had an Edward Snowden threat model, then I would use Session regardless of politics. It's the best way to ensure that they don't know who's talking to who and the contents of the messages.
I despise how people make platforms and tools politicized. They were never meant to be. I use different apps with supposed affiliations but as long as I don't engage with those people, that's one more normal person on the platform keeping the balance.
The direction a communication service takes entirely depends on the political affiliations of their developers. Everything is political in nature, politics is merely the study of social systemic structures that humans develop.
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@AnonymousEntity @altair222 so say you are a lefty, green or democrat, people should just boycott your work or stop employing you, due to that? I don't condone anything here, but that is absolutely absurd! 🤦🤡
@chiefbongo @altair222 for me, privacy and anonymity is what it is. I'll use whatever's available to obtain it. Using those services won't benefit them since it's free and open source.
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@fosserytech @fedora @keepassxc @librewolf @libreoffice @protonmail @protonvpn wasnt there a whole thing with proton and the CIA compromising it via the CDN for a while?
@nihilistic_capybara @fedora @keepassxc @librewolf @libreoffice @protonmail @protonvpn I just heard about a case when they handed over a criminal's data to the Swiss government (but they state that in their privacy policy that they must obey the law)
@fosserytech @fedora @keepassxc @librewolf @libreoffice @protonmail @protonvpn but if it really.is end to end encrypted and zero knowledge them shouldn't they not be able to even decrypt the data?
@nihilistic_capybara @fedora @keepassxc @librewolf @libreoffice @protonmail @protonvpn I think each email and cloud providers can do that. When you use any of those you have to trust them with your data. If you're concerned about that, the only solution is self-hosting. Proton Mail is still the best option for those who can't self-host.
@fosserytech @nihilistic_capybara @fedora @keepassxc @librewolf @libreoffice @protonmail @protonvpn There isn't rly any good way to self-host email, especially when you also want to send. Receive sure, there are options, but sending emails from self-hosted server is almost undoable without all of your emails ending up in spam.
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